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Default MOT queries - 04-04-2007 , 01:11 PM






I'm a newbie on this site but feeling ignorant and potentially
cheated, so wanted to ask for your advice!

Have just had my MOT failed for a cut in one of the tyres. It was
tested today, but the certificate doesnt run out until 11th April.

1) how long have I got if I take it away from the test centre to get
it replaced?
2) " if I leave it at the test centre?

3) was it a mistake to ask the garage to supply me with a new tyre?
4) how much (if anything) is fair to charge for changing it?

I'm sure these are basic questions but I feel a bit lost and hoped I
could get honest answers rather than what the garage was telling me!

Thanks


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Default Re: MOT queries - 04-04-2007 , 01:26 PM







"tmc001" <tachaud (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I'm a newbie on this site but feeling ignorant and potentially
cheated, so wanted to ask for your advice!

Have just had my MOT failed for a cut in one of the tyres. It was
tested today, but the certificate doesnt run out until 11th April.

1) how long have I got if I take it away from the test centre to get
it replaced?
2) " if I leave it at the test centre?

3) was it a mistake to ask the garage to supply me with a new tyre?
4) how much (if anything) is fair to charge for changing it?

I'm sure these are basic questions but I feel a bit lost and hoped I
could get honest answers rather than what the garage was telling me!

Thanks
why should you think the garage wont give you an honest answer ?

we get our customers to leave the vehicle, saves them & us time.


a.. Where a vehicle fails its MOT Test and stays at the Test Station in
order to undergo repairs, only a partial re-examination will be required,
provided the re-examination is carried out before the end of the tenth
working day after the day of the initial test. This re-examination will be
free.
b.. If the vehicle is brought back to the same Testing Station by the end
of the next working day for one or more of the following items only, a
partial re-examination is again required and this re-examination is also
free:
Bonnet, boot lid, brake pedal anti-slip, direction indicators, doors,
dropsides, fuel filler cap, hazard warning, horn, lamps, loading door,
mirrors, rear reflectors, registration plates, seatbelts (but not
anchorages), seats, sharp edges or projections, steering wheel, tailboard,
tailgate, vehicle identification number (VIN), windscreen and glass,
windscreen wipers/washers, wheels* and tyres*.

(* Not applicable to motor bicycles and side cars.)




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Default Re: MOT queries - 04-04-2007 , 05:56 PM



tmc001 wrote:
Quote:
I'm a newbie on this site but feeling ignorant and potentially
cheated, so wanted to ask for your advice!

Have just had my MOT failed for a cut in one of the tyres. It was
tested today, but the certificate doesnt run out until 11th April.

1) how long have I got if I take it away from the test centre to get
it replaced?
2) " if I leave it at the test centre?

3) was it a mistake to ask the garage to supply me with a new tyre?
4) how much (if anything) is fair to charge for changing it?

I'm sure these are basic questions but I feel a bit lost and hoped I
could get honest answers rather than what the garage was telling me!

Thanks
Why should you feel "cheated"? If you had carried out a proper visual
inspection of the vehicle before taking it to a test centre you would
probably have noticed the cut and changed it for the spare wheel - wouldn't
you?

To be honest, it is probably quicker (and in the long run) cheaper and more
convenient to let the garage change the tyre and sort the paperwork out
there and then if that was all the car failed on - and remember, if the car
failed it's MOT, then it is unlawful to drive it on the road anyway (even if
the old one hadn't expired).

In a nutshell, don't blame the garage for your negligence!





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Default Re: MOT queries - 04-04-2007 , 06:10 PM



In article <46142d2f_1 (AT) x-privat (DOT) org>, me (AT) me-to-try- (DOT) com (Dragon) wrote:

Quote:
and remember, if the car
failed it's MOT, then it is unlawful to drive it on the road anyway
Are you sure?

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Default Re: MOT queries - 04-04-2007 , 06:32 PM



In article <1175710295.364841.12690 (AT) l77g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
tmc001 <tachaud (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
I'm a newbie on this site but feeling ignorant and potentially
cheated, so wanted to ask for your advice!

Have just had my MOT failed for a cut in one of the tyres. It was
tested today, but the certificate doesnt run out until 11th April.

1) how long have I got if I take it away from the test centre to get
it replaced?
It depends entirely on the garage. Some do free re-tests within say 5 days
while others charge the full amount. They usually have their scale of
charges on display in the waiting room or office.

Quote:
2) " if I leave it at the test centre?
Most won't charge then for a re-test.

Quote:
3) was it a mistake to ask the garage to supply me with a new tyre?
4) how much (if anything) is fair to charge for changing it?
There's the rub. Most will charge more than a tyre specialist. They may
not even have the necessary equipment for balancing the new tyre.

Quote:
I'm sure these are basic questions but I feel a bit lost and hoped I
could get honest answers rather than what the garage was telling me!
I'm not quite sure what you mean. You should really ask what you're going
to be charged before work starts - including the MOT fee, since this isn't
fixed either.

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Default Re: MOT queries - 04-05-2007 , 01:47 AM



Dragon (me (AT) me-to-try- (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

Quote:
remember, if the car failed it's MOT, then it is unlawful to drive it
on the road anyway (even if the old one hadn't expired).
<sigh>
No, it isn't.

The old MOT is still valid until the expiry date. If the car's
unroadworthy, then it's illegal to drive - with or without having failed
the MOT.


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Default Re: MOT queries - 04-05-2007 , 11:00 AM



Adrian wrote:
Quote:
Dragon (me (AT) me-to-try- (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

remember, if the car failed it's MOT, then it is unlawful to drive it
on the road anyway (even if the old one hadn't expired).

sigh
No, it isn't.

The old MOT is still valid until the expiry date. If the car's
unroadworthy, then it's illegal to drive - with or without having
failed the MOT.
Sigh all you want old son - by the very nature of the car failing the MOT
then technically it is unroadworthy - even if the old one has yet to
expire - and unlawful to drive on the public highway.

Secondly - if the car has failed on a cut tyre - then again legally that car
is unroadworthy - and yet again, unlawful to drive on the public highway.

Also it is worth remembering that in the days before the computerised MOT,
it was possible to get away with just about anything and run the vehicle for
a few days whilst things were sorted out.

Now, it is technically possible to fail the MOT (yet still have one on the
car) drive out of the garage, pass a camera on a overbridge and then a few
days later - get done for driving a defective vehicle.




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Default Re: MOT queries - 04-05-2007 , 11:15 AM



Dragon (me (AT) me-to-try- (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying :

Quote:
remember, if the car failed it's MOT, then it is unlawful to drive
it on the road anyway (even if the old one hadn't expired).

sigh
No, it isn't.

The old MOT is still valid until the expiry date. If the car's
unroadworthy, then it's illegal to drive - with or without having
failed the MOT.

Sigh all you want old son - by the very nature of the car failing the
MOT then technically it is unroadworthy
No, it isn't.

Quote:
- even if the old one has yet to expire - and unlawful to drive on the
public highway.
But not because the old MOT is no longer valid.

Quote:
Secondly - if the car has failed on a cut tyre - then again legally
that car is unroadworthy - and yet again, unlawful to drive on the
public highway.
Which it still would be without having taken it for that failed MOT.

Quote:
Also it is worth remembering that in the days before the computerised
MOT, it was possible to get away with just about anything and run the
vehicle for a few days whilst things were sorted out.
As long as the vehicle's roadworthy - it still is perfectly legal to do
exactly that.

Quote:
Now, it is technically possible to fail the MOT (yet still have one on
the car) drive out of the garage, pass a camera on a overbridge and
then a few days later - get done for driving a defective vehicle.
No, it isn't.


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Default Re: MOT queries - 04-05-2007 , 11:26 AM



On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:00:07 +0100, Dragon <me (AT) me-to-try- (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Adrian wrote:
Dragon (me (AT) me-to-try- (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

remember, if the car failed it's MOT, then it is unlawful to drive it
on the road anyway (even if the old one hadn't expired).

sigh
No, it isn't.

The old MOT is still valid until the expiry date. If the car's
unroadworthy, then it's illegal to drive - with or without having
failed the MOT.

Sigh all you want old son - by the very nature of the car failing the MOT
then technically it is unroadworthy - even if the old one has yet to
expire - and unlawful to drive on the public highway.

So what's the box for that says in the tresters opinion the car is unsafe?

Quote:
Secondly - if the car has failed on a cut tyre - then again legally that
car
is unroadworthy - and yet again, unlawful to drive on the public highway.

Also it is worth remembering that in the days before the computerised
MOT,
it was possible to get away with just about anything and run the vehicle
for
a few days whilst things were sorted out.

Now, it is technically possible to fail the MOT (yet still have one on
the
car) drive out of the garage, pass a camera on a overbridge and then a
few
days later - get done for driving a defective vehicle.



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Conor
 
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Default Re: MOT queries - 04-05-2007 , 12:54 PM



In article <1175710295.364841.12690 (AT) l77g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
tmc001 says...
Quote:
I'm a newbie on this site but feeling ignorant and potentially
cheated, so wanted to ask for your advice!

Have just had my MOT failed for a cut in one of the tyres. It was
tested today, but the certificate doesnt run out until 11th April.

1) how long have I got if I take it away from the test centre to get
it replaced?
2) " if I leave it at the test centre?

3) was it a mistake to ask the garage to supply me with a new tyre?
4) how much (if anything) is fair to charge for changing it?

I'm sure these are basic questions but I feel a bit lost and hoped I
could get honest answers rather than what the garage was telling me!

3) Not necessarily.
4) What car?


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until you hear them speak.........


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