MOT query

#1

I am sure this has been asked before but cannot find anything. My old car
goes in for an MOT this morning, two weeks before actually due. If it fails
can I still drive the car on it's existing MOT until it's expiry or does the
new one supersede the old one.

Thanks, Bill.

#2

"Bill" <co10 (AT) hotmail (DOT) co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

Quote:

I am sure this has been asked before but cannot find anything. My old
car goes in for an MOT this morning, two weeks before actually due. If
it fails can I still drive the car on it's existing MOT until it's
expiry or does the new one supersede the old one.

The fail will not invalidate the old certificate.

However, if the car is unroadworthy, it's illegal to drive it - even
before it fails a test.

#3

In article <7l7j6kF3c8uugU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, Bill says...

Quote:

I am sure this has been asked before but cannot find anything. My old car
goes in for an MOT this morning, two weeks before actually due. If it fails
can I still drive the car on it's existing MOT until it's expiry or does the
new one supersede the old one.

No because although it has a certificate still in force, it doesn't meet

the minimum standards required to be roadworthy which is why it has
failed. It was also not legal to drive on the road with the faults
before it failed the test either. Technically, depending on the reason
for the failure, you may have had an excuse for driving an unroadworthy
vehicle prior to the test however now you are aware of the faults/the
fact the vehicle doesn't meet the minimum requirements, there is no
excuse should you be pulled into a roadside VOSA checkpoint or pulled up
by the Police and the faults found. It will come to light that there is
a fail issued on the MOT database.

--
Conor
www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk

I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.

#4

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:56:06 -0000, Conor <conor (AT) gmx (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:

In article <7l7j6kF3c8uugU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, Bill says...

I am sure this has been asked before but cannot find anything. My old
car
goes in for an MOT this morning, two weeks before actually due. If it
fails
can I still drive the car on it's existing MOT until it's expiry or
does the
new one supersede the old one.

No because although it has a certificate still in force, it doesn't meet
the minimum standards required to be roadworthy which is why it has
failed. It was also not legal to drive on the road with the faults
before it failed the test either. Technically, depending on the reason
for the failure, you may have had an excuse for driving an unroadworthy
vehicle prior to the test however now you are aware of the faults/the
fact the vehicle doesn't meet the minimum requirements, there is no
excuse should you be pulled into a roadside VOSA checkpoint or pulled up
by the Police and the faults found. It will come to light that there is
a fail issued on the MOT database.

They're all may not be legal though, it depends on what it's failed on.

#5

Conor wrote:

Quote:

In article <7l7j6kF3c8uugU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, Bill says...
I am sure this has been asked before but cannot find anything. My old car
goes in for an MOT this morning, two weeks before actually due. If it fails
can I still drive the car on it's existing MOT until it's expiry or does the
new one supersede the old one.

No because although it has a certificate still in force, it doesn't meet
the minimum standards required to be roadworthy which is why it has
failed. It was also not legal to drive on the road with the faults
before it failed the test either. Technically, depending on the reason
for the failure, you may have had an excuse for driving an unroadworthy
vehicle prior to the test however now you are aware of the faults/the
fact the vehicle doesn't meet the minimum requirements, there is no
excuse should you be pulled into a roadside VOSA checkpoint or pulled up
by the Police and the faults found. It will come to light that there is
a fail issued on the MOT database.

I thought there were things that failed the MOT but would pass the

'unroadworthy' test.

Such as rear seat belts being worn or torn. I'd like to see you get
nicked if you didn't have any rear passengers!

Also there are many 'self repair'items that could be put right quickly :
bald tyre, duff bulb, out of spec numberplates - do people suggest that
the current MOT is still supeceded by a new fail - if you repair these
before driving?

#6

In article <op.u2rh5mtihaghkf@lucy>, Duncan Wood says...

Quote:

They're all may not be legal though, it depends on what it's failed on.

Perhaps you'd care to tell me what fault its legal to drive with but
fail an MOT on?

Actually, I can think of one possible, cracked numberplate but only if
its readable OK.

--
Conor
www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk

I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.

#7

In article <7l7q4rF3ckqjbU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, Paul says...

Quote:

I thought there were things that failed the MOT but would pass the
'unroadworthy' test.

Such as rear seat belts being worn or torn. I'd like to see you get
nicked if you didn't have any rear passengers!

You'd get pulled up in a VOSA roadside check for it.

Quote:

Also there are many 'self repair'items that could be put right quickly :
bald tyre, duff bulb, out of spec numberplates - do people suggest that
the current MOT is still supeceded by a new fail - if you repair these
before driving?

If you've repaired them, then the fault doesn't exist. I doubt the OP
has any intention of doing though.

--
Conor
www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk

I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.

#8

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:20:42 -0000, Paul <Paul1232hssspam (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:

Conor wrote:
In article <7l7j6kF3c8uugU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, Bill says...
I am sure this has been asked before but cannot find anything. My old
car goes in for an MOT this morning, two weeks before actually due.
If it fails can I still drive the car on it's existing MOT until it's
expiry or does the new one supersede the old one.

No because although it has a certificate still in force, it doesn't
meet the minimum standards required to be roadworthy which is why it
has failed. It was also not legal to drive on the road with the faults
before it failed the test either. Technically, depending on the reason
for the failure, you may have had an excuse for driving an unroadworthy
vehicle prior to the test however now you are aware of the faults/the
fact the vehicle doesn't meet the minimum requirements, there is no
excuse should you be pulled into a roadside VOSA checkpoint or pulled
up by the Police and the faults found. It will come to light that there
is a fail issued on the MOT database.

I thought there were things that failed the MOT but would pass the
'unroadworthy' test.

Such as rear seat belts being worn or torn. I'd like to see you get
nicked if you didn't have any rear passengers!

Also there are many 'self repair'items that could be put right quickly :
bald tyre, duff bulb, out of spec numberplates - do people suggest that
the current MOT is still supeceded by a new fail - if you repair these
before driving?

It's irrelevant, the old one is still valid, anything that previously made
the car unsafe will still be doing so. There's a separate box for this
shouldn't be driven down the road.

#9

"Duncan Wood" <nntpnews (AT) dmx512 (DOT) co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

Quote:

It's irrelevant, the old one is still valid, anything that previously
made the car unsafe will still be doing so. There's a separate box for
this shouldn't be driven down the road.

So any fail that the tester doesn't flag as "dangerous" doesn't count
towards "unroadworthy"?

#10

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:27:17 -0000, Conor <conor (AT) gmx (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:

In article <op.u2rh5mtihaghkf@lucy>, Duncan Wood says...

They're all may not be legal though, it depends on what it's failed on.

Perhaps you'd care to tell me what fault its legal to drive with but
fail an MOT on?

Actually, I can think of one possible, cracked numberplate but only if
its readable OK.

Headlamp alignment when driving during the day, emissions fails short of
gross polluting, seatbelt fails for seats not in use, faulty abs warning
light, temporary windscreen, spacesaver tyre fitted, there's plenty more.