 | |
Re: Slightly OT but I trust you guys...
Cars Maintenance General car maintenance (uk.rec.cars.maintenance)
 |
| | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Display Modes |
#11
 
| |||
| |||
|
Re: Slightly OT but I trust you guys... -
04-17-2007
, 03:41 AM
|
Conor wrote: In article <osadncCIgbDAEL7bnZ2dnUVZ8qbinZ2d (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Coyoteboy says... steve robinson proclaimed to uk.rec.cars.maintenance ... You have to take a new driving test for that group Kinda gathered that but where/how/what is involved? Same as a HGV Artic test which is actually a Cat E test. First part of the test is done at a HGV test centre. You have to go through coupling and uncoupling a trailer. You have to then perform a reversing manouvre which basically involves reversing in a S shape, avoiding going over a painted line on the drivers side which simulates a kerb, avoiding a cone placed mid point in the manouvre on the passenger side, eventually stopping in a marked out box. You are allowed a couple of shunts to straighten up before reversing into the box. Once you've completed this, you'll be taken to another area where you perform a controlled stop. THATS A CONTROLLED STOP AND NOT AN EMERGENCY STOP as there is no such thing in a Cat E test. You can actually fail for stopping too short. Once you've completed those, you will be taken out for a road test the same as a normal car test although you'll have to remember to stick to the limits for a towing vehicle. All these tests seem like a bit of pain. If you wanted to be able to drive pretty much anything, would an Artic test do it? I only ask because I have a recent license and would like to be able to tow big trailers as well as drive lorrys. |
If you do a B+E, then that's all you can drive.
However, if you do a C+E test or D+E test, then you automatically get the
B+E license, however before you can do the +E test, you've got to do the C
or D test.
You can't just go straight for the C+E test now.
And given the current cost of the relevant courses, unless you really need a
LGV, or PCV license, is it worth it?
#12
| |||
| |||
|
|
moray proclaimed to uk.rec.cars.maintenance ... "Conor" <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.208ddbc6e4950dfe98a52c (AT) news (DOT) karoo.co.uk... In article <R62dnRO9abZfPb7bRVnyhAA (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Coyoteboy says... Conor proclaimed to uk.rec.cars.maintenance ... In article <osadncCIgbDAEL7bnZ2dnUVZ8qbinZ2d (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Coyoteboy says... steve robinson proclaimed to uk.rec.cars.maintenance ... You have to take a new driving test for that group Kinda gathered that but where/how/what is involved? Same as a HGV Artic test which is actually a Cat E test. First part of the test is done at a HGV test centre. You have to go through coupling and uncoupling a trailer. You have to then perform a reversing manouvre which basically involves reversing in a S shape, avoiding going over a painted line on the drivers side which simulates a kerb, avoiding a cone placed mid point in the manouvre on the passenger side, eventually stopping in a marked out box. You are allowed a couple of shunts to straighten up before reversing into the box. Once you've completed this, you'll be taken to another area where you perform a controlled stop. THATS A CONTROLLED STOP AND NOT AN EMERGENCY STOP as there is no such thing in a Cat E test. You can actually fail for stopping too short. Once you've completed those, you will be taken out for a road test the same as a normal car test although you'll have to remember to stick to the limits for a towing vehicle. Thanks Conor, that was the kind of info I was looking for  Soundseasy enough, though I'm sure when you try it its harder than it sounds! I'll look into it further, cheers! If you go for lessons, they'll teach you to do the reverse manouvre parrot fashion. If you decide not to, basically you pull up near to the cone on the NSF corner. As soon as you start reversing, put full right lock on. When the trailer has started to turn, reduce the lock making sure you don't cross the white line to the right. You'll reverse past the cone and then it's a little left lock to steer it towards the box. Not sure about the caravan test but on a HGV artic test, you had to stop the rear of the trailer in the middle of a hatched box. Driver training schools used to cheat by putting some white tape on the rear mudflap which, when it lined up with the front of the box when looking in the rearview mirror, told you the rear of the trailer was where it needed to be. Yeah, it's the exact same test as an artic test. Rear of the trailer has to stop in the yellow box, and the cones are positioned depending on the size of the vehicle/trailer. Cheers for the added info. I feel a little more "armed" whenconsidering it now! I could do with doing this so I can help out as currently the only person in the family that can/will tow is my father. Muchos grassy ass |
HGV/PCV driving schools, as that's who I done mine through.
The one I used, assesed me for free, and recommended how many days training
I'd need. Think I had one full day, then another with the test after lunch.
The hardest part is the reversing exercise. It's at the start, so if you
stuff up getting the back of the trailer in the box, then you've already
failed!
I'm sure there'll be a site somewhere that shows the dimensions for how they
layout the area for doing the reversing exercise.
#13
| |||
| |||
|
|
"Coyoteboy" <coyotebo... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:OPGdnfNPfJOkQb7bnZ2dnUVZ8sfinZ2d (AT) bt (DOT) com... moray proclaimed to uk.rec.cars.maintenance ... "Conor" <conor.tur... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.208ddbc6e4950dfe98a52c (AT) news (DOT) karoo.co.uk... In article <R62dnRO9abZfPb7bRVny... (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Coyoteboy says... Conor proclaimed to uk.rec.cars.maintenance ... In article <osadncCIgbDAEL7bnZ2dnUVZ8qbin... (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Coyoteboy says... steve robinson proclaimed to uk.rec.cars.maintenance ... You have to take a new driving test for that group Kinda gathered that but where/how/what is involved? Same as a HGV Artic test which is actually a Cat E test. First part of the test is done at a HGV test centre. You have to go through coupling and uncoupling a trailer. You have to then perform a reversing manouvre which basically involves reversing in a S shape, avoiding going over a painted line on the drivers side which simulates a kerb, avoiding a cone placed mid point in the manouvre on the passenger side, eventually stopping in a marked out box. You are allowed a couple of shunts to straighten up before reversing into the box. Once you've completed this, you'll be taken to another area where you perform a controlled stop. THATS A CONTROLLED STOP AND NOT AN EMERGENCY STOP as there is no such thing in a Cat E test. You can actually fail for stopping too short. Once you've completed those, you will be taken out for a road test the same as a normal car test although you'll have to remember to stick to the limits for a towing vehicle. Thanks Conor, that was the kind of info I was looking for Soundseasy enough, though I'm sure when you try it its harder than it sounds! I'll look into it further, cheers! If you go for lessons, they'll teach you to do the reverse manouvre parrot fashion. If you decide not to, basically you pull up near to the cone on the NSF corner. As soon as you start reversing, put full right lock on. When the trailer has started to turn, reduce the lock making sure you don't cross the white line to the right. You'll reverse past the cone and then it's a little left lock to steer it towards the box. Not sure about the caravan test but on a HGV artic test, you had to stop the rear of the trailer in the middle of a hatched box. Driver training schools used to cheat by putting some white tape on the rear mudflap which, when it lined up with the front of the box when looking in the rearview mirror, told you the rear of the trailer was where it needed to be. Yeah, it's the exact same test as an artic test. Rear of the trailer has to stop in the yellow box, and the cones are positioned depending on the size of the vehicle/trailer. Cheers for the added info. I feel a little more "armed" whenconsidering it now! I could do with doing this so I can help out as currently the only person in the family that can/will tow is my father. Muchos grassy ass In all honesty, it would probably be best contacting some of the local HGV/PCV driving schools, as that's who I done mine through. The one I used, assesed me for free, and recommended how many days training I'd need. Think I had one full day, then another with the test after lunch. The hardest part is the reversing exercise. It's at the start, so if you stuff up getting the back of the trailer in the box, then you've already failed! I'm sure there'll be a site somewhere that shows the dimensions for how they layout the area for doing the reversing exercise.- Hide quoted text - |
Hmmm, dunno if it's just me but when I towed for the first time I just
jumped in and did it. No problems reversing or anything.
#14
| |||
| |||
|
|
On Apr 17, 9:49 am, "moray" <mtb_hyphen_ru... (AT) hotmail (DOT) co.uk> wrote: "Coyoteboy" <coyotebo... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:OPGdnfNPfJOkQb7bnZ2dnUVZ8sfinZ2d (AT) bt (DOT) com... moray proclaimed to uk.rec.cars.maintenance ... "Conor" <conor.tur... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.208ddbc6e4950dfe98a52c (AT) news (DOT) karoo.co.uk... In article <R62dnRO9abZfPb7bRVny... (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Coyoteboy says... Conor proclaimed to uk.rec.cars.maintenance ... In article <osadncCIgbDAEL7bnZ2dnUVZ8qbin... (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Coyoteboy says... steve robinson proclaimed to uk.rec.cars.maintenance ... You have to take a new driving test for that group Kinda gathered that but where/how/what is involved? Same as a HGV Artic test which is actually a Cat E test. First part of the test is done at a HGV test centre. You have to go through coupling and uncoupling a trailer. You have to then perform a reversing manouvre which basically involves reversing in a S shape, avoiding going over a painted line on the drivers side which simulates a kerb, avoiding a cone placed mid point in the manouvre on the passenger side, eventually stopping in a marked out box. You are allowed a couple of shunts to straighten up before reversing into the box. Once you've completed this, you'll be taken to another area where you perform a controlled stop. THATS A CONTROLLED STOP AND NOT AN EMERGENCY STOP as there is no such thing in a Cat E test. You can actually fail for stopping too short. Once you've completed those, you will be taken out for a road test the same as a normal car test although you'll have to remember to stick to the limits for a towing vehicle. Thanks Conor, that was the kind of info I was looking for Soundseasy enough, though I'm sure when you try it its harder than it sounds! I'll look into it further, cheers! If you go for lessons, they'll teach you to do the reverse manouvre parrot fashion. If you decide not to, basically you pull up near to the cone on the NSF corner. As soon as you start reversing, put full right lock on. When the trailer has started to turn, reduce the lock making sure you don't cross the white line to the right. You'll reverse past the cone and then it's a little left lock to steer it towards the box. Not sure about the caravan test but on a HGV artic test, you had to stop the rear of the trailer in the middle of a hatched box. Driver training schools used to cheat by putting some white tape on the rear mudflap which, when it lined up with the front of the box when looking in the rearview mirror, told you the rear of the trailer was where it needed to be. Yeah, it's the exact same test as an artic test. Rear of the trailer has to stop in the yellow box, and the cones are positioned depending on the size of the vehicle/trailer. Cheers for the added info. I feel a little more "armed" whenconsidering it now! I could do with doing this so I can help out as currently the only person in the family that can/will tow is my father. Muchos grassy ass In all honesty, it would probably be best contacting some of the local HGV/PCV driving schools, as that's who I done mine through. The one I used, assesed me for free, and recommended how many days training I'd need. Think I had one full day, then another with the test after lunch. The hardest part is the reversing exercise. It's at the start, so if you stuff up getting the back of the trailer in the box, then you've already failed! I'm sure there'll be a site somewhere that shows the dimensions for how they layout the area for doing the reversing exercise.- Hide quoted text - Hmmm, dunno if it's just me but when I towed for the first time I just jumped in and did it. No problems reversing or anything. |
being able to drive with a trailer to pass a test....
Reversing was not an issue for me, as I'd been doing it for years with
tractors anyway.
#15
| |||
| |||
|
|
All these tests seem like a bit of pain. If you wanted to be able to drive pretty much anything, would an Artic test do it? I only ask because I have a recent license and would like to be able to tow big trailers as well as drive lorrys. Yes it would. What it wouldn't cover you for is minibuses with more |
Only thing is that you now have to do it in two stages. You have to
take a Cat C test first then take C + E. You're looking around £2000 in
total but you could recoup that by doing a few Saturdays driving artics
for an agency at around £15/hr.
Also, because demand for agency drivers is as it is, you'd not have to
fear unemployment because if you lost your current job for whatever
reason, you just sign up with a driving agency and be working the
following week.
--
Conor
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........
|
« Previous Thread
|
Next Thread »
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
| Display Modes | |
Linear Mode
| |
Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.