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Default Re: Slightly O/T But Important - 10-31-2009 , 02:38 PM






Steve Walker wrote:
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Paul wrote:
Steve Walker wrote:
Paul wrote:
Gordon H wrote:
It appears that the government, in an attempt to save itself some
money, plans to let motorists acquitted of motoring offences pay
their own court costs. This is likely to cause many people to just
pay the fine because it's cheaper than clearing their name. I've seen
a figure (unverified) that one in four who challenge a ticket win
their case. It also applies to other offences, I think..

Petition at

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/CostsRecovery/
Nice scare story , but I'm not signing on on your say so,,

The petition itself says:

"The Ministry of Justice plan to implement a new costs recovery system
from October 2009. Under new rules any defendant acquitted of an
offence in the Magistrates' Court will only be reimbursed at
prevailing legal aid rates regardless of the level of costs they paid
to their lawyers." MOST drivers don't take a lawyer to Magistrates
Court - so unaffected.
If you are stupid enough to pay a 'World Class' lawyer for a speeding
ticket, when duty lawyer would have got you off - tough.
I think the majority of wrongly accused drivers would want a proper,
pre-briefed lawyer who could marshall evidence & witnesses for their
defence.

You might choose settle for 10 mins of the duty lawyer's time (and a
conviction) but you have no right to impose that on others.


If you are innocent, any duty solicitor is obliged to use due dilligence
to get you off, and if he doesn't then there is the appeals process
through the crown court, where presumably you will still be able to
claim costs.
(its also debatable whether the case would even BE at the magistrates if
you are pleading not guilty).

I object to paying tax money to use a sledge hammer to crack a nut -
either the guy is innocent and a tax funded lawyer is good enough, or he
is guilty and trying to use a loophole to get around it in which case he
can use his own money to pay for his fancy lawyer.

Sorry, but that's utter bollocks. Shame on you for denying justice to
innocent people.


So - you seriously believe that the are two classes of lawyers - the
'shit' ones that work for the state funded prosecution and defense and a
'super lawyer' race? You pay for what you get in motoring defence?
Bullshit.

On that basis the crown should pay their lawyers ten times the going
rate and then EVERY case would be found guilty!

Go down the courts and tell a lawyer he must be shit because he only
gets legal aid funding, I dare you.


How is only paying the going rate for a lawyer rather than inflated fess
'denying justice'?

On that basis I guess if your Mini is damaged in an accident you are
going to demand it repaired at the Ferrari bodyshop because they charge
a higher hourly rate "so must be much better and its what I deserve"?

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Default Re: Slightly O/T But Important - 11-01-2009 , 06:45 AM






On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:38:52 +0000, Paul <Paul1232hssspam (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
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On that basis I guess if your Mini is damaged in an accident you are
going to demand it repaired at the Ferrari bodyshop because they charge
a higher hourly rate "so must be much better and its what I deserve"?

If _my_ Mini were damaged in an accident, the only person I would trust
to repair it _properly_ is *me*!
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