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Default Three "tastes" of those long ago stock cars from www.oldstox.com - 11-03-2007 , 09:55 AM






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That takes me back to my old days hanging out at Brafield Stadium. Me and my
mate used to hitch over there for every meeting of stocks and bangers. Those
piccies look like F2's. I used to like the 'exhaust-free' bubbling noise
that the V8 F1's made when idling in the pit enclosure. Happy days ...

Arfa




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Default Re: Three "tastes" of those long ago stock cars from www.oldstox.com - 11-06-2007 , 02:19 PM



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That takes me back to my old days hanging out at Brafield Stadium. Me
and my mate used to hitch over there for every meeting of stocks and
bangers. Those piccies look like F2's. I used to like the
'exhaust-free' bubbling noise that the V8 F1's made when idling in the
pit enclosure. Happy days ...
Takes me back to my Dad taking me to Aldershot and a couple of other places
that I can't remember (I was only 11 or so!), loving the bangers and the
demolition derby, being bored shitless by the stocks and superstocks, but
being covered in black 'stuff' - A mixture of tyre rubber, oil and soot.
Trying to remember that the colours of the roof was significant, and that
one bloke (with the best roof colour) always won :-)

Happy days indeed. I seem to remember seeing a 'grasstrack' event once -
Very exciting. Does it still exist?

Al.


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Default Re: Three "tastes" of those long ago stock cars from www.oldstox.com - 11-06-2007 , 08:03 PM




"Al" <alnews67 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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That takes me back to my old days hanging out at Brafield Stadium. Me
and my mate used to hitch over there for every meeting of stocks and
bangers. Those piccies look like F2's. I used to like the
'exhaust-free' bubbling noise that the V8 F1's made when idling in the
pit enclosure. Happy days ...

Takes me back to my Dad taking me to Aldershot and a couple of other
places
that I can't remember (I was only 11 or so!), loving the bangers and the
demolition derby, being bored shitless by the stocks and superstocks, but
being covered in black 'stuff' - A mixture of tyre rubber, oil and soot.
Trying to remember that the colours of the roof was significant, and that
one bloke (with the best roof colour) always won :-)

Happy days indeed. I seem to remember seeing a 'grasstrack' event once -
Very exciting. Does it still exist?

Al.
As I recall, a white roof was a novice driver. Then came yellow, then blue,
then red. These came about as a result of racking up wins or placings. The
current world champion wore a gold roof for the year.

Arfa




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Default Re: Three "tastes" of those long ago stock cars from www.oldstox.com - 11-08-2007 , 05:00 AM




"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote

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"Al" <alnews67 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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That takes me back to my old days hanging out at Brafield Stadium. Me
and my mate used to hitch over there for every meeting of stocks and
bangers. Those piccies look like F2's. I used to like the
'exhaust-free' bubbling noise that the V8 F1's made when idling in the
pit enclosure. Happy days ...

Takes me back to my Dad taking me to Aldershot and a couple of other
places
that I can't remember (I was only 11 or so!), loving the bangers and the
demolition derby, being bored shitless by the stocks and superstocks, but
being covered in black 'stuff' - A mixture of tyre rubber, oil and soot.
Trying to remember that the colours of the roof was significant, and that
one bloke (with the best roof colour) always won :-)

Happy days indeed. I seem to remember seeing a 'grasstrack' event once -
Very exciting. Does it still exist?

Al.

As I recall, a white roof was a novice driver. Then came yellow, then
blue, then red. These came about as a result of racking up wins or
placings. The current world champion wore a gold roof for the year.

Arfa
there are other regional? variations like chequered roof (British champion)
and a stripe to show the highest points, etc.

I got up to highish yellow top in bangers, but just didn't have the
resources to get further, you need a breakers yard and a few paid helpers
plus lots of money and skill to win on a regular basis. At that time (early
90s) you needed about 3000 pounds to build a top engine and a car per
meeting, I ran on a shoestring and usually got about 6 meetings per car, I
was usually 'placed' and ran very reliable cars and tried to stay out of the
vendetta mentality. One of the most striking things about the whole scene
was the helpfulness between opponents in the pits, no holding back, we all
just got on and fixed stuff, if your own car was ready you would help the
guy next to you, lending bits, tyres, batteries etc. you don't find that in
the 'upper class' formula stuff, everyone is secretive and selfish.

Mrcheerful




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Default Re: Three "tastes" of those long ago stock cars from www.oldstox.com - 11-12-2007 , 06:04 PM




"Mrcheerful" <nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Al" <alnews67 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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That takes me back to my old days hanging out at Brafield Stadium. Me
and my mate used to hitch over there for every meeting of stocks and
bangers. Those piccies look like F2's. I used to like the
'exhaust-free' bubbling noise that the V8 F1's made when idling in the
pit enclosure. Happy days ...

Takes me back to my Dad taking me to Aldershot and a couple of other
places
that I can't remember (I was only 11 or so!), loving the bangers and the
demolition derby, being bored shitless by the stocks and superstocks,
but
being covered in black 'stuff' - A mixture of tyre rubber, oil and soot.
Trying to remember that the colours of the roof was significant, and
that
one bloke (with the best roof colour) always won :-)

Happy days indeed. I seem to remember seeing a 'grasstrack' event once -
Very exciting. Does it still exist?

Al.

As I recall, a white roof was a novice driver. Then came yellow, then
blue, then red. These came about as a result of racking up wins or
placings. The current world champion wore a gold roof for the year.

Arfa

there are other regional? variations like chequered roof (British
champion) and a stripe to show the highest points, etc.

I got up to highish yellow top in bangers, but just didn't have the
resources to get further, you need a breakers yard and a few paid helpers
plus lots of money and skill to win on a regular basis. At that time
(early 90s) you needed about 3000 pounds to build a top engine and a car
per meeting, I ran on a shoestring and usually got about 6 meetings per
car, I was usually 'placed' and ran very reliable cars and tried to stay
out of the vendetta mentality. One of the most striking things about the
whole scene was the helpfulness between opponents in the pits, no holding
back, we all just got on and fixed stuff, if your own car was ready you
would help the guy next to you, lending bits, tyres, batteries etc. you
don't find that in the 'upper class' formula stuff, everyone is secretive
and selfish.

Mrcheerful

It was late 60's early 70's when I was into stocks and bangers (as a
specletatator - I were just a yooth like ) and I don't remember seeing any
chequered roofs or stripes, so maybe that was regional, or something that
came later. I do, however, remember drivers keeping bangers for virtually
the whole season. One that comes to mind was a lad called "Sooty" from down
Oxford way somewhere I think, who ran an old black Jag with stacks straight
up through the bonnet. I saw him run race after race with that car. We also
had a local team that ran a hearse. I saw it on its first outing when it was
pristine. Naturally, it was a 'target' right from the off, but they patched
up and wheeled that motor out for meeting after meeting ...

I haven't been for many years now. I would probably be disappointed as from
what I can gather, it has now become a commercialised 'motorsport' rather
than the good old days which, as you say, were characterised by a bunch of
like-minded lads just having fun. I guess you would have called it 'friendly
rivalry' rather than truly competitive 'racing'.

On a different note, quick question for you. My daughter came up from uni
today in her Ka, and told me that she had steering troubles. I had a little
drive, and it feels awful. Turning left is not too bad, although it doesn't
feel 'right'. A right turn is actually quite difficult to make, and the
steering doesn't readily re-centre, requiring you to haul it back. It feels
like there is something amiss with the power steering, but it is definitely
asymmetric. I chucked it straight in the village garage to see what they
thought. They have not come back to me yet, but in the meantime, I would
value any thoughts that you, or anyone else reading this, may have.

Arfa




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Default Re: Three "tastes" of those long ago stock cars from www.oldstox.com - 11-13-2007 , 02:50 AM




"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote

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"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Al" <alnews67 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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That takes me back to my old days hanging out at Brafield Stadium. Me
and my mate used to hitch over there for every meeting of stocks and
bangers. Those piccies look like F2's. I used to like the
'exhaust-free' bubbling noise that the V8 F1's made when idling in the
pit enclosure. Happy days ...

Takes me back to my Dad taking me to Aldershot and a couple of other
places
that I can't remember (I was only 11 or so!), loving the bangers and
the
demolition derby, being bored shitless by the stocks and superstocks,
but
being covered in black 'stuff' - A mixture of tyre rubber, oil and
soot.
Trying to remember that the colours of the roof was significant, and
that
one bloke (with the best roof colour) always won :-)

Happy days indeed. I seem to remember seeing a 'grasstrack' event
once -
Very exciting. Does it still exist?

Al.

As I recall, a white roof was a novice driver. Then came yellow, then
blue, then red. These came about as a result of racking up wins or
placings. The current world champion wore a gold roof for the year.

Arfa

there are other regional? variations like chequered roof (British
champion) and a stripe to show the highest points, etc.

I got up to highish yellow top in bangers, but just didn't have the
resources to get further, you need a breakers yard and a few paid helpers
plus lots of money and skill to win on a regular basis. At that time
(early 90s) you needed about 3000 pounds to build a top engine and a car
per meeting, I ran on a shoestring and usually got about 6 meetings per
car, I was usually 'placed' and ran very reliable cars and tried to stay
out of the vendetta mentality. One of the most striking things about the
whole scene was the helpfulness between opponents in the pits, no holding
back, we all just got on and fixed stuff, if your own car was ready you
would help the guy next to you, lending bits, tyres, batteries etc. you
don't find that in the 'upper class' formula stuff, everyone is secretive
and selfish.

Mrcheerful

It was late 60's early 70's when I was into stocks and bangers (as a
specletatator - I were just a yooth like ) and I don't remember seeing any
chequered roofs or stripes, so maybe that was regional, or something that
came later. I do, however, remember drivers keeping bangers for virtually
the whole season. One that comes to mind was a lad called "Sooty" from
down Oxford way somewhere I think, who ran an old black Jag with stacks
straight up through the bonnet. I saw him run race after race with that
car. We also had a local team that ran a hearse. I saw it on its first
outing when it was pristine. Naturally, it was a 'target' right from the
off, but they patched up and wheeled that motor out for meeting after
meeting ...

I haven't been for many years now. I would probably be disappointed as
from what I can gather, it has now become a commercialised 'motorsport'
rather than the good old days which, as you say, were characterised by a
bunch of like-minded lads just having fun. I guess you would have called
it 'friendly rivalry' rather than truly competitive 'racing'.

On a different note, quick question for you. My daughter came up from uni
today in her Ka, and told me that she had steering troubles. I had a
little drive, and it feels awful. Turning left is not too bad, although it
doesn't feel 'right'. A right turn is actually quite difficult to make,
and the steering doesn't readily re-centre, requiring you to haul it back.
It feels like there is something amiss with the power steering, but it is
definitely asymmetric. I chucked it straight in the village garage to see
what they thought. They have not come back to me yet, but in the meantime,
I would value any thoughts that you, or anyone else reading this, may
have.

Arfa

Ka suffer from rack failure on a regular basis (just google for it) , main
dealer price is 900 pounds.
I don't recall if the Ka is similar to Fiesta here, but fiestas used to
suffer from the steering column jug failing which gave similar symptoms to
your description.

Mrcheerful




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That takes me back to my old days hanging out at Brafield Stadium. Me
and my mate used to hitch over there for every meeting of stocks and
bangers. Those piccies look like F2's. I used to like the
'exhaust-free' bubbling noise that the V8 F1's made when idling in
the
pit enclosure. Happy days ...

Takes me back to my Dad taking me to Aldershot and a couple of other
places
that I can't remember (I was only 11 or so!), loving the bangers and
the
demolition derby, being bored shitless by the stocks and superstocks,
but
being covered in black 'stuff' - A mixture of tyre rubber, oil and
soot.
Trying to remember that the colours of the roof was significant, and
that
one bloke (with the best roof colour) always won :-)

Happy days indeed. I seem to remember seeing a 'grasstrack' event
once -
Very exciting. Does it still exist?

Al.

As I recall, a white roof was a novice driver. Then came yellow, then
blue, then red. These came about as a result of racking up wins or
placings. The current world champion wore a gold roof for the year.

Arfa

there are other regional? variations like chequered roof (British
champion) and a stripe to show the highest points, etc.

I got up to highish yellow top in bangers, but just didn't have the
resources to get further, you need a breakers yard and a few paid
helpers plus lots of money and skill to win on a regular basis. At that
time (early 90s) you needed about 3000 pounds to build a top engine and
a car per meeting, I ran on a shoestring and usually got about 6
meetings per car, I was usually 'placed' and ran very reliable cars and
tried to stay out of the vendetta mentality. One of the most striking
things about the whole scene was the helpfulness between opponents in
the pits, no holding back, we all just got on and fixed stuff, if your
own car was ready you would help the guy next to you, lending bits,
tyres, batteries etc. you don't find that in the 'upper class' formula
stuff, everyone is secretive and selfish.

Mrcheerful

It was late 60's early 70's when I was into stocks and bangers (as a
specletatator - I were just a yooth like ) and I don't remember seeing
any chequered roofs or stripes, so maybe that was regional, or something
that came later. I do, however, remember drivers keeping bangers for
virtually the whole season. One that comes to mind was a lad called
"Sooty" from down Oxford way somewhere I think, who ran an old black Jag
with stacks straight up through the bonnet. I saw him run race after race
with that car. We also had a local team that ran a hearse. I saw it on
its first outing when it was pristine. Naturally, it was a 'target' right
from the off, but they patched up and wheeled that motor out for meeting
after meeting ...

I haven't been for many years now. I would probably be disappointed as
from what I can gather, it has now become a commercialised 'motorsport'
rather than the good old days which, as you say, were characterised by a
bunch of like-minded lads just having fun. I guess you would have called
it 'friendly rivalry' rather than truly competitive 'racing'.

On a different note, quick question for you. My daughter came up from uni
today in her Ka, and told me that she had steering troubles. I had a
little drive, and it feels awful. Turning left is not too bad, although
it doesn't feel 'right'. A right turn is actually quite difficult to
make, and the steering doesn't readily re-centre, requiring you to haul
it back. It feels like there is something amiss with the power steering,
but it is definitely asymmetric. I chucked it straight in the village
garage to see what they thought. They have not come back to me yet, but
in the meantime, I would value any thoughts that you, or anyone else
reading this, may have.

Arfa


Ka suffer from rack failure on a regular basis (just google for it) , main
dealer price is 900 pounds.
I don't recall if the Ka is similar to Fiesta here, but fiestas used to
suffer from the steering column jug failing which gave similar symptoms to
your description.

Mrcheerful
Curse these spell checkers, that should read uj (universal joint)




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That takes me back to my old days hanging out at Brafield Stadium.
Me
and my mate used to hitch over there for every meeting of stocks and
bangers. Those piccies look like F2's. I used to like the
'exhaust-free' bubbling noise that the V8 F1's made when idling in
the
pit enclosure. Happy days ...

Takes me back to my Dad taking me to Aldershot and a couple of other
places
that I can't remember (I was only 11 or so!), loving the bangers and
the
demolition derby, being bored shitless by the stocks and superstocks,
but
being covered in black 'stuff' - A mixture of tyre rubber, oil and
soot.
Trying to remember that the colours of the roof was significant, and
that
one bloke (with the best roof colour) always won :-)

Happy days indeed. I seem to remember seeing a 'grasstrack' event
once -
Very exciting. Does it still exist?

Al.

As I recall, a white roof was a novice driver. Then came yellow, then
blue, then red. These came about as a result of racking up wins or
placings. The current world champion wore a gold roof for the year.

Arfa

there are other regional? variations like chequered roof (British
champion) and a stripe to show the highest points, etc.

I got up to highish yellow top in bangers, but just didn't have the
resources to get further, you need a breakers yard and a few paid
helpers plus lots of money and skill to win on a regular basis. At
that time (early 90s) you needed about 3000 pounds to build a top
engine and a car per meeting, I ran on a shoestring and usually got
about 6 meetings per car, I was usually 'placed' and ran very reliable
cars and tried to stay out of the vendetta mentality. One of the most
striking things about the whole scene was the helpfulness between
opponents in the pits, no holding back, we all just got on and fixed
stuff, if your own car was ready you would help the guy next to you,
lending bits, tyres, batteries etc. you don't find that in the 'upper
class' formula stuff, everyone is secretive and selfish.

Mrcheerful

It was late 60's early 70's when I was into stocks and bangers (as a
specletatator - I were just a yooth like ) and I don't remember seeing
any chequered roofs or stripes, so maybe that was regional, or something
that came later. I do, however, remember drivers keeping bangers for
virtually the whole season. One that comes to mind was a lad called
"Sooty" from down Oxford way somewhere I think, who ran an old black Jag
with stacks straight up through the bonnet. I saw him run race after
race with that car. We also had a local team that ran a hearse. I saw it
on its first outing when it was pristine. Naturally, it was a 'target'
right from the off, but they patched up and wheeled that motor out for
meeting after meeting ...

I haven't been for many years now. I would probably be disappointed as
from what I can gather, it has now become a commercialised 'motorsport'
rather than the good old days which, as you say, were characterised by a
bunch of like-minded lads just having fun. I guess you would have called
it 'friendly rivalry' rather than truly competitive 'racing'.

On a different note, quick question for you. My daughter came up from
uni today in her Ka, and told me that she had steering troubles. I had a
little drive, and it feels awful. Turning left is not too bad, although
it doesn't feel 'right'. A right turn is actually quite difficult to
make, and the steering doesn't readily re-centre, requiring you to haul
it back. It feels like there is something amiss with the power steering,
but it is definitely asymmetric. I chucked it straight in the village
garage to see what they thought. They have not come back to me yet, but
in the meantime, I would value any thoughts that you, or anyone else
reading this, may have.

Arfa


Ka suffer from rack failure on a regular basis (just google for it) ,
main dealer price is 900 pounds.
I don't recall if the Ka is similar to Fiesta here, but fiestas used to
suffer from the steering column jug failing which gave similar symptoms
to your description.

Mrcheerful

Curse these spell checkers, that should read uj (universal joint)

Thanks. I'll see what they have to say when I pop back in there today ...

Arfa




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