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John McLean
 
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Default Unlicensed Vehicles on the Road - 08-24-2005 , 03:06 PM






Hello All,
I apologise since this is strictly not topical here.
There is a neighbour who has a business apparently buying and selling older
cars, N registration etc. He lives in rented accommodation and continually
makes a nuisance of himself in the neighbourhood, by hammering, grinding and
buffing etc. He can be working on several cars at the same time; and parks
several on the road during these repairs; or when waiting for buyers. This
causes congestion in an already congested road. As these cars are have no
road tax, what is the law here?. A further concern is that these vehicles
are probably not insured, they may cause an accident or be set on fire by
yobos, this has happened before in the road causing damage to cars parked
nearby.
I have contacted the local authority some time ago, regarding the noise and
carrying out a business activity in a residential area. They said that there
is nothing that can be done; but if there were sufficient complaints from
neighbours etc.etc. I want to avoid this since it can lead to recrimination,
I have not even spoken to this guy for the same reason.
Anybody got any experience or recommendations on this problem?
Jaymack



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Colin Wilson
 
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Default Re: Unlicensed Vehicles on the Road - 08-24-2005 , 03:27 PM






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Anybody got any experience or recommendations on this problem?
ISTR selling over a certain amount of vehicles per year could tweak the
interest of customs and excise, as he probably isn`t paying what he
should in tax...


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mrcheerful .
 
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Default Re: Unlicensed Vehicles on the Road - 08-24-2005 , 03:40 PM




"John McLean" <jaymack12 (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Hello All,
I apologise since this is strictly not topical here.
There is a neighbour who has a business apparently buying and selling
older
cars, N registration etc. He lives in rented accommodation and continually
makes a nuisance of himself in the neighbourhood, by hammering, grinding
and
buffing etc. He can be working on several cars at the same time; and parks
several on the road during these repairs; or when waiting for buyers. This
causes congestion in an already congested road. As these cars are have no
road tax, what is the law here?. A further concern is that these vehicles
are probably not insured, they may cause an accident or be set on fire by
yobos, this has happened before in the road causing damage to cars parked
nearby.
I have contacted the local authority some time ago, regarding the noise
and
carrying out a business activity in a residential area. They said that
there
is nothing that can be done; but if there were sufficient complaints from
neighbours etc.etc. I want to avoid this since it can lead to
recrimination,
I have not even spoken to this guy for the same reason.
Anybody got any experience or recommendations on this problem?
Jaymack

Selling more than two vehicles a year is regarded as business.

DVLA web site has a facility to report unlicensed cars.

mrcheerful




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Guy King
 
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Default Re: Unlicensed Vehicles on the Road - 08-24-2005 , 03:52 PM



The message <deigg8$aa6$1 (AT) nwrdmz03 (DOT) dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>
from "John McLean" <jaymack12 (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> contains these words:

Quote:
Anybody got any experience or recommendations on this problem?
We had trouble with people selling old bangers from the verges round our
area. A call to Trading Standards at first generated no interest, but a
chat with the beat copper and a request from him lead to "Unlicenced
Vehicle" stickers appearing on them all, followed by a visit from the
crane-truck which took 'em all away to the breakers.

Hasn't recurred in anything like the same quantity, just the occasional
one here and there which often get stickered anyway.

--
Skipweasel.
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And the word was Aardvark.




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Gary Millar
 
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Default Re: Unlicensed Vehicles on the Road - 08-24-2005 , 04:55 PM




"Guy King" <guy.king (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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The message <deigg8$aa6$1 (AT) nwrdmz03 (DOT) dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com
from "John McLean" <jaymack12 (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> contains these words:

Anybody got any experience or recommendations on this problem?

We had trouble with people selling old bangers from the verges round our
area. A call to Trading Standards at first generated no interest, but a
chat with the beat copper and a request from him lead to "Unlicenced
Vehicle" stickers appearing on them all, followed by a visit from the
crane-truck which took 'em all away to the breakers.

Hasn't recurred in anything like the same quantity, just the occasional
one here and there which often get stickered anyway.

--
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark
..
I reckon all vehicle on a public highway are supposed to have current tax
insurance and an MOT if not then the police or vehicle inspectorate should
be doing something about it. Even if they are SORN they should not be on the
public highway.
Quote:




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Guy King
 
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Default Re: Unlicensed Vehicles on the Road - 08-24-2005 , 05:22 PM



The message <H85Pe.71$p4.2 (AT) newsfe5-win (DOT) ntli.net>
from "Gary Millar" <g.millar (AT) tesco (DOT) net> contains these words:

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I reckon all vehicle on a public highway are supposed to have current tax
insurance and an MOT if not then the police or vehicle inspectorate should
be doing something about it. Even if they are SORN they should not be
on the
public highway.
Yes, we know all that, but it's actually how to get them to do something
about it which is the question.

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Chris Whelan
 
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Default Re: Unlicensed Vehicles on the Road - 08-24-2005 , 05:50 PM



Quote:
I reckon all vehicle on a public highway are supposed to have current tax
insurance and an MOT if not then the police or vehicle inspectorate should
be doing something about it. Even if they are SORN they should not be on
the public highway.
I *think* the law was changed recently to allow the local council to
clamp/remove untaxed vehicles. Certainly, non-uniformed individuals working
out of local council vans have carried out two purges in the last year
where I live. There has been a police presence both times, but the officer
remained in his car.
There was no mercy - no current tax meant a clamp was fitted immediately,
the vehicle was then removed the same day. It has been very effective in
reducing the number of cars clearly not in use parked on the roads.

Chris

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Brian G
 
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Default Re: Unlicensed Vehicles on the Road - 08-24-2005 , 05:54 PM



John McLean wrote:
Quote:
Hello All,
I apologise since this is strictly not topical here.
There is a neighbour who has a business apparently buying and selling
older cars, N registration etc. He lives in rented accommodation and
continually makes a nuisance of himself in the neighbourhood, by
hammering, grinding and buffing etc. He can be working on several
cars at the same time; and parks several on the road during these
repairs; or when waiting for buyers. This causes congestion in an
already congested road. As these cars are have no road tax, what is
the law here?. A further concern is that these vehicles are probably
not insured, they may cause an accident or be set on fire by yobos,
this has happened before in the road causing damage to cars parked
nearby.
I have contacted the local authority some time ago, regarding the
noise and carrying out a business activity in a residential area.
They said that there is nothing that can be done; but if there were
sufficient complaints from neighbours etc.etc. I want to avoid this
since it can lead to recrimination, I have not even spoken to this
guy for the same reason.
Anybody got any experience or recommendations on this problem?
Jaymack
Contact the local plod for the following reasons:

It's legally an obstruction of the highway to carry out ANY repairs on it,
even to change a flat tyre - or even to park a vehicle there
It's a criminal offence to use/park an uninsured vehicle on the public
highway
It's a criminal offence to use/park a vehicle on the public highway without
a current MOT certificate
It's a criminal offence to use/park an unregistered vehicle on the public
highway
It's a criminal offence to use/park an unroadworthy vehicle on the public
highway

Contact the DVLA:

It's a civil offence to use/park a vehicle on the public highway without a
current excise licence

Contact HM Inspector of Taxes

He will soon have to register if he is self employed, it will be a criminal
offence for him not to do so
He must tell them of ANY income that is being made from any work that he
does

This is just for starters, I'm sure if you dig deep enough you could find a
few more - is he registered as unemployed...?

Brian G




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Chris Street
 
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Default Re: Unlicensed Vehicles on the Road - 08-24-2005 , 06:12 PM



On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:40:31 GMT, nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
"John McLean" <jaymack12 (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:deigg8$aa6$1 (AT) nwrdmz03 (DOT) dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
Hello All,
I apologise since this is strictly not topical here.
There is a neighbour who has a business apparently buying and selling
older
cars, N registration etc. He lives in rented accommodation and continually
makes a nuisance of himself in the neighbourhood, by hammering, grinding
and
buffing etc. He can be working on several cars at the same time; and parks
several on the road during these repairs; or when waiting for buyers. This
causes congestion in an already congested road. As these cars are have no
road tax, what is the law here?. A further concern is that these vehicles
are probably not insured, they may cause an accident or be set on fire by
yobos, this has happened before in the road causing damage to cars parked
nearby.
I have contacted the local authority some time ago, regarding the noise
and
carrying out a business activity in a residential area. They said that
there
is nothing that can be done; but if there were sufficient complaints from
neighbours etc.etc. I want to avoid this since it can lead to
recrimination,
I have not even spoken to this guy for the same reason.
Anybody got any experience or recommendations on this problem?
Jaymack


Selling more than two vehicles a year is regarded as business.
I fail to see how you can apply a blanket statement like that. Who says?


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mrcheerful .
 
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Default Re: Unlicensed Vehicles on the Road - 08-24-2005 , 07:05 PM




"Chris Street" <ngfb (AT) chris-street (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote

Quote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:40:31 GMT, nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

"John McLean" <jaymack12 (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:deigg8$aa6$1 (AT) nwrdmz03 (DOT) dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
Hello All,
I apologise since this is strictly not topical here.
There is a neighbour who has a business apparently buying and selling
older
cars, N registration etc. He lives in rented accommodation and
continually
makes a nuisance of himself in the neighbourhood, by hammering, grinding
and
buffing etc. He can be working on several cars at the same time; and
parks
several on the road during these repairs; or when waiting for buyers.
This
causes congestion in an already congested road. As these cars are have
no
road tax, what is the law here?. A further concern is that these
vehicles
are probably not insured, they may cause an accident or be set on fire
by
yobos, this has happened before in the road causing damage to cars
parked
nearby.
I have contacted the local authority some time ago, regarding the noise
and
carrying out a business activity in a residential area. They said that
there
is nothing that can be done; but if there were sufficient complaints
from
neighbours etc.etc. I want to avoid this since it can lead to
recrimination,
I have not even spoken to this guy for the same reason.
Anybody got any experience or recommendations on this problem?
Jaymack


Selling more than two vehicles a year is regarded as business.

I fail to see how you can apply a blanket statement like that. Who says?
The local council in my area say that. I can only assume they have some
basis to do so.
Thurrock Council.

mrcheerful




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