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Default Wheel compatibility - 07-09-2009 , 03:51 PM






Does anybody know of a chart showing interchangeability of *steel* car
wheels? Which wheels can be used on which cars? For example, do Fiesta
14" wheels have the same bolt holes as Peugeot 14" wheels?

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Default Re: Wheel compatibility - 07-09-2009 , 04:45 PM






general

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html

model specifics http://www.alloywheels.com/fitmentguide.asp

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Default Re: Wheel compatibility - 07-09-2009 , 06:24 PM



Alf wrote:
Quote:
general

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html

model specifics http://www.alloywheels.com/fitmentguide.asp


And really unhelpful.

The guys doesn't want to know tyre sizes, he doesn't want to know which
alloy his ford will take.

He wants to know if his *wheels* on his Ford Focus will go on his Volvo
and suchlike.

Ie if he gets his wheel off by undoing those hexagonal things - nuts?
will the wheel then attach to another car using the same fixing method?

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Default Re: Wheel compatibility - 07-09-2009 , 08:36 PM



"Cicero" <sheldrake (AT) hellfire (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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Does anybody know of a chart showing interchangeability of *steel* car
wheels? Which wheels can be used on which cars? For example, do Fiesta
14" wheels have the same bolt holes as Peugeot 14" wheels?
I know in your example that the PCD is the same for Ford and Peugeot,
although the offset (ET) is different, and just to add to the complexity the
central hole for the Ford wheel is smaller. So Pug wheels will fit a Ford,
but the Ford wheels won't fit a Pug.

http://www.alloywheels.com/fitmentguide.asp
http://www.alloyguide.com/


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Default Re: Wheel compatibility - 07-11-2009 , 06:02 AM



On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:24:13 +0100, Blah wrote:

Quote:
Alf wrote:
general

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html

model specifics http://www.alloywheels.com/fitmentguide.asp


And really unhelpful.

The guys doesn't want to know tyre sizes, he doesn't want to know which
alloy his ford will take.

He wants to know if his *wheels* on his Ford Focus will go on his Volvo
and suchlike.

Ie if he gets his wheel off by undoing those hexagonal things - nuts?
will the wheel then attach to another car using the same fixing method?

What he *needs* to know is a set of three things:

- PCD - that's the distance the holes are from the centre of the wheel,
and how many holes there are. E.G. For most Pug/Ford it's 4x108 which
means 4 holes (always evenly spaced), 108mm from the centre.

- Offset - how far in or out the wheel centreline is from the mounting
plane. This is given as a value like 'et35', which means the wheel
centreline is 35mm closer to the centre of the car than the mounting face
of the hub. The 'really unhelpful' websites linked above explain all
this. If the offset is wrong by less than 5-7mm or so, you'll probably be
OK although you might have issues with wheels rubbing against bits of
bodywork or chassis. More than that can get structurally difficult dues
to extra stresses and leverages on the joints, you'd need expert advice.

- Centrebore - how big the hole in the middle is (or on some weird cars,
whether it even has one). Usually the wheels will have the same size
centre cap on the hub as this, so you can use the cap to line up the
wheels. If the centrebore of the wheel is larger than the standard size
(e.g. Pug wheels on a Ford hub) there will be some 'slop' but the wheels
will still fit and the nuts/studs will centre it fine. If it's the other
way round you won't be able to put the wheel on as the centre cap is too
big.

Right.. so if those 'really unhelpful' websites which explain all this
are not enough, and me explaining it again isn't enough, then the OP
should either go and buy wheels form a shop and let them sort it out, or
stick with the standard wheels.

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Blah
 
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Default Re: Wheel compatibility - 07-11-2009 , 01:49 PM



PCPaul wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:24:13 +0100, Blah wrote:

Alf wrote:
general

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html

model specifics http://www.alloywheels.com/fitmentguide.asp


And really unhelpful.

The guys doesn't want to know tyre sizes, he doesn't want to know which
alloy his ford will take.

He wants to know if his *wheels* on his Ford Focus will go on his Volvo
and suchlike.

Ie if he gets his wheel off by undoing those hexagonal things - nuts?
will the wheel then attach to another car using the same fixing method?


What he *needs* to know is a set of three things:

- PCD -
- Offset -

- Centrebore -

Right.. so if those 'really unhelpful' websites which explain all this
are not enough,
And where does http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html explain *any* of
those terms? In ten thousand words?

yes, unhelpful.

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PCPaul
 
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Default Re: Wheel compatibility - 07-11-2009 , 03:19 PM



On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:49:38 +0100, Blah wrote:

Quote:
PCPaul wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:24:13 +0100, Blah wrote:

Alf wrote:
general

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html

model specifics http://www.alloywheels.com/fitmentguide.asp


And really unhelpful.

The guys doesn't want to know tyre sizes, he doesn't want to know
which alloy his ford will take.

He wants to know if his *wheels* on his Ford Focus will go on his
Volvo and suchlike.

Ie if he gets his wheel off by undoing those hexagonal things - nuts?
will the wheel then attach to another car using the same fixing
method?


What he *needs* to know is a set of three things:

- PCD -
- Offset -

- Centrebore -

Right.. so if those 'really unhelpful' websites which explain all this
are not enough,

And where does http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html explain *any* of
those terms? In ten thousand words?

yes, unhelpful.

That depends on how narrowly you choose to interpret the question. To get
a proper answer to 'can I use these wheels on that car', then you *do*
need to know not only fitment but also about the rolling diameter of the
tyres on those wheels. Your 4x108 et35 wheels might be absolutely fine as
far as fitment goes, but if one set has 5Jx13 rims with 135/45x13 tyres
and you replace them with (same fitment) 8Jx17 rims with 225/80x17 tyres
then you're going to get a shock.

It's not only about where the holes are, it's what you do around them as
well that matters.

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Default Re: Wheel compatibility - 07-11-2009 , 03:23 PM



PCPaul wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:49:38 +0100, Blah wrote:

PCPaul wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:24:13 +0100, Blah wrote:

Alf wrote:
general

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html

model specifics http://www.alloywheels.com/fitmentguide.asp


And really unhelpful.

The guys doesn't want to know tyre sizes, he doesn't want to know
which alloy his ford will take.

He wants to know if his *wheels* on his Ford Focus will go on his
Volvo and suchlike.

Ie if he gets his wheel off by undoing those hexagonal things - nuts?
will the wheel then attach to another car using the same fixing
method?

What he *needs* to know is a set of three things:

- PCD -
- Offset -

- Centrebore -

Right.. so if those 'really unhelpful' websites which explain all this
are not enough,
And where does http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html explain *any* of
those terms? In ten thousand words?

yes, unhelpful.


That depends on how narrowly you choose to interpret the question.
Does anybody know of a chart showing interchangeability of *steel* car
wheels? Which wheels can be used on which cars? For example, do Fiesta
14" wheels have the same bolt holes as Peugeot 14" wheels?

How narrow does the bloke make it!
I want to swop some *steel* wheels.
Which *wheels* can be used.
Which *holes* matter.

No metion of *rubber* or *tyres*.

Don't big up your part in this play....

Quote:
It's not only about where the holes are, it's what you do around them as
well that matters.

*Everyone* knows that tyre sizes matter.. the question was clearly
'steel wheels'.

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Duncan Wood
 
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Default Re: Wheel compatibility - 07-11-2009 , 03:28 PM



On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:23:43 +0100, Blah <Blah (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
PCPaul wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:49:38 +0100, Blah wrote:

PCPaul wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:24:13 +0100, Blah wrote:

Alf wrote:
general

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html

model specifics http://www.alloywheels.com/fitmentguide.asp


And really unhelpful.

The guys doesn't want to know tyre sizes, he doesn't want to know
which alloy his ford will take.

He wants to know if his *wheels* on his Ford Focus will go on his
Volvo and suchlike.

Ie if he gets his wheel off by undoing those hexagonal things - nuts?
will the wheel then attach to another car using the same fixing
method?

What he *needs* to know is a set of three things:

- PCD -
- Offset -

- Centrebore -

Right.. so if those 'really unhelpful' websites which explain all this
are not enough,
And where does http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html explain *any*
of
those terms? In ten thousand words?

yes, unhelpful.
That depends on how narrowly you choose to interpret the question.

Does anybody know of a chart showing interchangeability of *steel* car
wheels? Which wheels can be used on which cars? For example, do Fiesta
14" wheels have the same bolt holes as Peugeot 14" wheels?

How narrow does the bloke make it!
I want to swop some *steel* wheels.
Which *wheels* can be used.
Which *holes* matter.

No metion of *rubber* or *tyres*.

Don't big up your part in this play....

It's not only about where the holes are, it's what you do around them
as well that matters.


*Everyone* knows that tyre sizes matter.. the question was clearly
'steel wheels'.


Everybody else knows steel & alloy wheels are the same.

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Default Re: Wheel compatibility - 07-11-2009 , 03:35 PM






Duncan Wood wrote:

Quote:

Everybody else knows steel & alloy wheels are the same.
Steel is an alloy...

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