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Default Compressed Air Intake - 08-22-2005 , 10:41 PM






I've been thinking of supercharger alternatives for the past couple
days, and I've come up with an interesting one. I'm just hopeing that
maybe someone might have some suggestions or warnings. Here goes:

Install a large air tank into the trunk of my car. Have no motor on the
tank but have a nozzle that can attach to a motorized tank from my
house to compress the tank. Complress the tank to 60-100 psi. Run hoses
from the tank in my car to the intake of my motor. Release the
compressed air through a regulator into the motor (at a preset pressure
to affect performance at a particular rev area) manually using a valve
or, rig something up to release the air during peak revs.

Theres alot of details I've copmletely left out, but this is the plan.
Thanks for any help.


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Default Re: Compressed Air Intake - 08-22-2005 , 10:44 PM







"GPierce" <gaelen.pierce (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I've been thinking of supercharger alternatives for the past couple
days, and I've come up with an interesting one. I'm just hopeing that
maybe someone might have some suggestions or warnings. Here goes:

Install a large air tank into the trunk of my car. Have no motor on the
tank but have a nozzle that can attach to a motorized tank from my
house to compress the tank. Complress the tank to 60-100 psi. Run hoses
from the tank in my car to the intake of my motor. Release the
compressed air through a regulator into the motor (at a preset pressure
to affect performance at a particular rev area) manually using a valve
or, rig something up to release the air during peak revs.

Theres alot of details I've copmletely left out, but this is the plan.
Thanks for any help.
It would work but be very limited. Why not just use NOS? Or turbos?

Fraser




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Default Re: Compressed Air Intake - 08-22-2005 , 10:50 PM



Well, I've decided to not go that way, mainly becasue of money issues.
In case it matters, I'm using a 289 V8. I just thought air is free
basically, and a supercharger or turbocharger will basically do the
same thing. Although like you pointed out much more efficient. I have
everything I need to built this system right now, and I don't really
wanna drop that much money into this engine, because I plan to
basically use it as a fun ride for the end of the summer.


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Default Re: Compressed Air Intake - 08-22-2005 , 11:58 PM




"GPierce" <gaelen.pierce (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Well, I've decided to not go that way, mainly becasue of money issues.
In case it matters, I'm using a 289 V8. I just thought air is free
basically, and a supercharger or turbocharger will basically do the
same thing. Although like you pointed out much more efficient. I have
everything I need to built this system right now, and I don't really
wanna drop that much money into this engine, because I plan to
basically use it as a fun ride for the end of the summer.
Just stick a big carby and headers on it.

Fraser




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Default Re: Compressed Air Intake - 08-23-2005 , 01:19 AM





"GPierce" <gaelen.pierce (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I've been thinking of supercharger alternatives for the past couple
days, and I've come up with an interesting one. I'm just hopeing that
maybe someone might have some suggestions or warnings. Here goes:

Install a large air tank into the trunk of my car. Have no motor on the
tank but have a nozzle that can attach to a motorized tank from my
house to compress the tank. Complress the tank to 60-100 psi. Run hoses
from the tank in my car to the intake of my motor. Release the
compressed air through a regulator into the motor (at a preset pressure
You are going to need a regulator that can empty your bottle in seconds to
have ANY effect. It will need big pipes too, like radiator hoses. And you
will need to add extra fuel depending on your engine management system stup.
And mostly what will happen is the air you add will simply replace the air
that would have been drawn through the throttle body or carb. If you add
enough, fast enough, then once you get past the point that air is actually
coming out of the air intake you might see a very small increase, and more
once you close the throttle! So some boost in the intake can be made. Dont
think you really thought this through!

Nitrous on the other hand is richer in oxygen, and fed in very dense liguid
form, and even a small boost needs lots of the stuff and the bottle lasts
only 10bhp per lb per minute.

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to affect performance at a particular rev area) manually using a valve
or, rig something up to release the air during peak revs.

Theres alot of details I've copmletely left out, but this is the plan.
Thanks for any help.




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Default Re: Compressed Air Intake - 08-23-2005 , 01:21 AM



In article <1124769031.384701.119600 (AT) g44g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
gaelen.pierce (AT) gmail (DOT) com says...
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I just thought air is free
basically, and a supercharger or turbocharger will basically do the
same thing. Although like you pointed out much more efficient.

I lot of the DIY turbo drag racers in the US use CO2 with an injector in
the body of the turbo or the manifold on the exhaust side.
Use a quick burst of CO2 to spin up the turbo at launch, and instant no
lag, without the spitting flames of fuel driven anti lag. but is only
available for as long as the CO2 tank lasts.
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Default Re: Compressed Air Intake - 08-23-2005 , 02:52 AM



GPierce wrote:
Quote:
I've been thinking of supercharger alternatives for the past couple
days, and I've come up with an interesting one. I'm just hopeing that
maybe someone might have some suggestions or warnings. Here goes:

Install a large air tank into the trunk of my car. Have no motor on
the tank but have a nozzle that can attach to a motorized tank from my
house to compress the tank. Complress the tank to 60-100 psi. Run
hoses from the tank in my car to the intake of my motor. Release the
compressed air through a regulator into the motor (at a preset
pressure to affect performance at a particular rev area) manually
using a valve or, rig something up to release the air during peak
revs.
There's no reason it wouldn't work, but the engine is gonna swallow all the
air in a few seconds - they use *VAST* amounts. And the huge tank in the
boot will be very heavy...




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