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SteveH wrote: Apple claim that the OS takes care of everything - but if you have one shite program running (My current favourite suspect is Azureous) the OS loses control. Azureus? It is shite as far as memory and CPU time are concerned on all the platforms I've tried. It also makes my netgear routers throw hissy fits from time to time. |
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Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote: Or maybe a tiny little notebook isn't designed to be run 24/7? Doesn't seem to bother my Thinkpad, and presumably it has to work harder on account of being slower and less powerful. I have a Thinkpad and the MacBook on the coffee table in front of me. The Thinkpad is twice as thick, twice as heavy, around the same width but a good few inches deeper than the Macbook..... I think we can assume there's a lot more space inside the Thinkpad for air to circulate. |
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Given that I wasn't doing anything processor intensive, I shelled out for CoolBookController in order to shut it up. I've been running at a very cool 52 degrees-ish for a few days since I chopped the processor back to 1GHz. Battery life is up, too. Sounds a bit crap to me, why didn't you get something running nice XP or Vista out of the box? Lol. If I run this on XP, the fans go crazy. Lack of drivers for the Mac's chipset? No, 'cos there's nothing in the chipset that's specific to the MacBook in reality. |
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Anyway, I'm happy that someone has released a decent front-end for the Kernel CPU controls. You wouldn't need to be if you'd chosen a decent OS... Says the man who shelled out a lot of money on a Mac desktop. |
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Iridium <iridiumdan (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote: Anyway, I'm happy that someone has released a decent front-end for the Kernel CPU controls. You wouldn't need to be if you'd chosen a decent OS... Agreed, what's the point in buying a laptop with a decent CPU, then turning it down to prehistoric power... Because, in reality, you don't need 2GHz of Core Duo power 99.9% of the time. Much better to throttle back for better battery life / energy efficiency. |
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"Douglas Payne" <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote in message news:5ah3nmF2p4jrqU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net... SteveH wrote: Apple claim that the OS takes care of everything - but if you have one shite program running (My current favourite suspect is Azureous) the OS loses control. Azureus? It is shite as far as memory and CPU time are concerned on all the platforms I've tried. It also makes my netgear routers throw hissy fits from time to time. utorrent is the way. |
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The Thinkpad is twice as thick, twice as heavy, around the same width but a good few inches deeper than the Macbook..... I think we can assume there's a lot more space inside the Thinkpad for air to circulate. 1-0 to the Thinkpad then. |
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Given that I wasn't doing anything processor intensive, I shelled out for CoolBookController in order to shut it up. I've been running at a very cool 52 degrees-ish for a few days since I chopped the processor back to 1GHz. Battery life is up, too. Sounds a bit crap to me, why didn't you get something running nice XP or Vista out of the box? Lol. If I run this on XP, the fans go crazy. Lack of drivers for the Mac's chipset? No, 'cos there's nothing in the chipset that's specific to the MacBook in reality. Crap BIOS emulation software? |
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Anyway, I'm happy that someone has released a decent front-end for the Kernel CPU controls. You wouldn't need to be if you'd chosen a decent OS... Says the man who shelled out a lot of money on a Mac desktop. I'm using the Thinkpad at the moment, and I bet my Mac desktop cost less than your overheaty, ripoffly named "Macbook". |
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Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote: Because, in reality, you don't need 2GHz of Core Duo power 99.9% of the time. Much better to throttle back for better battery life / energy efficiency. Why did you buy a grossly overpowered computer in the first place then? The same reason you bought a rag-top car whilst living in one of the coldest and wettest places in Europe ;-) |
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Let's put it this way - I haven't noticed any significant slowdown in performance even though I've cut CPU speed by half. I'm gonna run my car on 2 cylinders to see if I can tell the difference. I fail to get the comparison. |
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Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote: The Thinkpad is twice as thick, twice as heavy, around the same width but a good few inches deeper than the Macbook..... I think we can assume there's a lot more space inside the Thinkpad for air to circulate. 1-0 to the Thinkpad then. Depends if you want a tiny little notebook for a bit of basic interwebby stuff (most of the time) or an industrial strength door-stop with crap battery life and injury inducing weight. (I carry the Thinkpad around all day and my shoulder is starting to suffer). |
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Given that I wasn't doing anything processor intensive, I shelled out for CoolBookController in order to shut it up. I've been running at a very cool 52 degrees-ish for a few days since I chopped the processor back to 1GHz. Battery life is up, too. Sounds a bit crap to me, why didn't you get something running nice XP or Vista out of the box? Lol. If I run this on XP, the fans go crazy. Lack of drivers for the Mac's chipset? No, 'cos there's nothing in the chipset that's specific to the MacBook in reality. Crap BIOS emulation software? Possibly. Or possibly it's the price you pay for cramming the power of a MacBook into such a small format case. Anyway, I'm happy that someone has released a decent front-end for the Kernel CPU controls. You wouldn't need to be if you'd chosen a decent OS... Says the man who shelled out a lot of money on a Mac desktop. I'm using the Thinkpad at the moment, and I bet my Mac desktop cost less than your overheaty, ripoffly named "Macbook". Maybe, but I doubt it. The MacBook was £629, delivered. A bargain, given what it's capable of. |
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I'm gonna run my car on 2 cylinders to see if I can tell the difference. |
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Depends if you want a tiny little notebook for a bit of basic interwebby stuff (most of the time) or an industrial strength door-stop with crap battery life and injury inducing weight. (I carry the Thinkpad around all day and my shoulder is starting to suffer). But does your Thinkpad overheat or run its fan at 100% all the time? Mine doesn't, but I suspect it's not the same as yours. |
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Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote: I'm gonna run my car on 2 cylinders to see if I can tell the difference. You've bought something with a NorthStar engine? |
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