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Default Re: CoolBookController mini review - 05-10-2007 , 01:04 PM







"Douglas Payne" <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote

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SteveH wrote:

Apple claim that the OS takes care of everything - but if you have one
shite program running (My current favourite suspect is Azureous) the OS
loses control.

Azureus? It is shite as far as memory and CPU time are concerned on all
the platforms I've tried. It also makes my netgear routers throw hissy
fits from time to time.
utorrent is the way.



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Default Re: CoolBookController mini review - 05-10-2007 , 01:04 PM






SteveH wrote:
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Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote:


Or maybe a tiny little notebook isn't designed to be run 24/7?

Doesn't seem to bother my Thinkpad, and presumably it has to work harder
on account of being slower and less powerful.


I have a Thinkpad and the MacBook on the coffee table in front of me.

The Thinkpad is twice as thick, twice as heavy, around the same width
but a good few inches deeper than the Macbook..... I think we can assume
there's a lot more space inside the Thinkpad for air to circulate.
1-0 to the Thinkpad then.

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Given that I wasn't doing anything processor intensive, I shelled out
for CoolBookController in order to shut it up. I've been running at a
very cool 52 degrees-ish for a few days since I chopped the processor
back to 1GHz. Battery life is up, too.

Sounds a bit crap to me, why didn't you get something running nice XP or
Vista out of the box?


Lol.

If I run this on XP, the fans go crazy.

Lack of drivers for the Mac's chipset?


No, 'cos there's nothing in the chipset that's specific to the MacBook
in reality.
Crap BIOS emulation software?

Quote:
Anyway, I'm happy that someone has released a decent front-end for the
Kernel CPU controls.

You wouldn't need to be if you'd chosen a decent OS...


Says the man who shelled out a lot of money on a Mac desktop.
I'm using the Thinkpad at the moment, and I bet my Mac desktop cost less
than your overheaty, ripoffly named "Macbook".

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Default Re: CoolBookController mini review - 05-10-2007 , 01:05 PM



"SteveH" <steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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Iridium <iridiumdan (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote:

Anyway, I'm happy that someone has released a decent front-end for the
Kernel CPU controls.

You wouldn't need to be if you'd chosen a decent OS...


Agreed, what's the point in buying a laptop with a decent CPU, then
turning
it down to prehistoric power...

Because, in reality, you don't need 2GHz of Core Duo power 99.9% of the
time.

Much better to throttle back for better battery life / energy
efficiency.

That's like having an M5/M6 and setting it to 400bhp mode cos "It's still
pretty fast" heh.

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Default Re: CoolBookController mini review - 05-10-2007 , 01:07 PM



Doki wrote:
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SteveH wrote:


Apple claim that the OS takes care of everything - but if you have one
shite program running (My current favourite suspect is Azureous) the OS
loses control.


Azureus? It is shite as far as memory and CPU time are concerned on
all the platforms I've tried. It also makes my netgear routers throw
hissy fits from time to time.


utorrent is the way.
That's what I currently use, except my current ISP doesn't seem to like
P2P much.

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Default Re: CoolBookController mini review - 05-10-2007 , 01:08 PM



Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
The Thinkpad is twice as thick, twice as heavy, around the same width
but a good few inches deeper than the Macbook..... I think we can assume
there's a lot more space inside the Thinkpad for air to circulate.

1-0 to the Thinkpad then.
Depends if you want a tiny little notebook for a bit of basic interwebby
stuff (most of the time) or an industrial strength door-stop with crap
battery life and injury inducing weight. (I carry the Thinkpad around
all day and my shoulder is starting to suffer).

Quote:
Given that I wasn't doing anything processor intensive, I shelled out
for CoolBookController in order to shut it up. I've been running at a
very cool 52 degrees-ish for a few days since I chopped the processor
back to 1GHz. Battery life is up, too.

Sounds a bit crap to me, why didn't you get something running nice XP or
Vista out of the box?


Lol.

If I run this on XP, the fans go crazy.

Lack of drivers for the Mac's chipset?


No, 'cos there's nothing in the chipset that's specific to the MacBook
in reality.

Crap BIOS emulation software?
Possibly. Or possibly it's the price you pay for cramming the power of a
MacBook into such a small format case.

Quote:
Anyway, I'm happy that someone has released a decent front-end for the
Kernel CPU controls.

You wouldn't need to be if you'd chosen a decent OS...


Says the man who shelled out a lot of money on a Mac desktop.

I'm using the Thinkpad at the moment, and I bet my Mac desktop cost less
than your overheaty, ripoffly named "Macbook".
Maybe, but I doubt it.

The MacBook was £629, delivered. A bargain, given what it's capable of.
--
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Default Re: CoolBookController mini review - 05-10-2007 , 01:10 PM



SteveH wrote:
Quote:
Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote:


Because, in reality, you don't need 2GHz of Core Duo power 99.9% of the
time.

Much better to throttle back for better battery life / energy
efficiency.

Why did you buy a grossly overpowered computer in the first place then?


The same reason you bought a rag-top car whilst living in one of the
coldest and wettest places in Europe ;-)
I have had the roof down every single day I've driven it and I've never
been rained on yet. (c:

Quote:
Let's put it this way - I haven't noticed any significant slowdown in
performance even though I've cut CPU speed by half.

I'm gonna run my car on 2 cylinders to see if I can tell the difference.


I fail to get the comparison.
Half the capacity. It's like eating half the cake. Or throttling the
CPU to half.

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Default Re: CoolBookController mini review - 05-10-2007 , 01:18 PM



SteveH wrote:
Quote:
Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote:


The Thinkpad is twice as thick, twice as heavy, around the same width
but a good few inches deeper than the Macbook..... I think we can assume
there's a lot more space inside the Thinkpad for air to circulate.

1-0 to the Thinkpad then.


Depends if you want a tiny little notebook for a bit of basic interwebby
stuff (most of the time) or an industrial strength door-stop with crap
battery life and injury inducing weight. (I carry the Thinkpad around
all day and my shoulder is starting to suffer).
But does your Thinkpad overheat or run its fan at 100% all the time?
Mine doesn't, but I suspect it's not the same as yours.

Quote:
Given that I wasn't doing anything processor intensive, I shelled out
for CoolBookController in order to shut it up. I've been running at a
very cool 52 degrees-ish for a few days since I chopped the processor
back to 1GHz. Battery life is up, too.

Sounds a bit crap to me, why didn't you get something running nice XP or
Vista out of the box?


Lol.

If I run this on XP, the fans go crazy.

Lack of drivers for the Mac's chipset?


No, 'cos there's nothing in the chipset that's specific to the MacBook
in reality.

Crap BIOS emulation software?


Possibly. Or possibly it's the price you pay for cramming the power of a
MacBook into such a small format case.


Anyway, I'm happy that someone has released a decent front-end for the
Kernel CPU controls.

You wouldn't need to be if you'd chosen a decent OS...


Says the man who shelled out a lot of money on a Mac desktop.

I'm using the Thinkpad at the moment, and I bet my Mac desktop cost less
than your overheaty, ripoffly named "Macbook".


Maybe, but I doubt it.

The MacBook was £629, delivered. A bargain, given what it's capable of.
OK, I was wrong on that one. My Mac's similarly powerful and has a
bigger screen than your Mac though, and it's older.


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Default Re: CoolBookController mini review - 05-10-2007 , 01:27 PM



Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote:

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I'm gonna run my car on 2 cylinders to see if I can tell the difference.
You've bought something with a NorthStar engine?


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Default Re: CoolBookController mini review - 05-10-2007 , 01:36 PM



Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Depends if you want a tiny little notebook for a bit of basic interwebby
stuff (most of the time) or an industrial strength door-stop with crap
battery life and injury inducing weight. (I carry the Thinkpad around
all day and my shoulder is starting to suffer).

But does your Thinkpad overheat or run its fan at 100% all the time?
Mine doesn't, but I suspect it's not the same as yours.
The fan does kick in quite a lot. It's quieter than the MacBook fan,
though. But then it's a big, heavy beast.

You can't really compare the two, 'cos the Thinkpad is half as powerful
but significantly bigger. It's bound to run cooler.

Anyway - it appears we've narrowed things down to Azureus. Although I'm
still not convinced a laptop should be run 24/7.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #


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Default Re: CoolBookController mini review - 05-10-2007 , 01:39 PM



Steve Firth wrote:
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Douglas Payne <douggie (AT) cheerful (DOT) com> wrote:


I'm gonna run my car on 2 cylinders to see if I can tell the difference.


You've bought something with a NorthStar engine?
Nah, I was just going to buy some software that pulls 2 of the ignition
leads off.

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