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On the Diesel V Petrol debate...
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Re: On the Diesel V Petrol debate... -
04-29-2004
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I was thinking more along the diesel supercar that you could afford to run type thing. Maybe even an NA W12 from a Taureg/Phaeton |
313PS can't be the best the engine can do. Having had a quick look superchips
will take it up to 356bhp & 855Nm. About the same bhp as a Chevrolet V8 5.7L V8
H.O. but twice the torque.
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But if you turbo'd and fitted the same size petrol engine, it would be better. Define better (have we been here before? :-) Peter |
track car here remember, diesel has no benefit.
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In article <zO3kc.45$n3.22 (AT) newsfe2-gui (DOT) server.ntli.net>, finlayson1nospam (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com says... "MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.1afad3a6a7364aa998a109 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net... I would seriously love to find a nice big Diesel V8 (something from a greyhound bus like they use in monster trucks) Mid mount it in a nice spaceframe chassis (Something a little bigger than a lotus elise/VX220) and give it the turbo/supercharger combination to maximise torque all through the rev range. I bet it could do some wonderful things. stop giving me ideas here theres already been a perkins derv powered E30  I'm thinking 6->8 litres running in a chassis weighing arround 750- 800kgs (reliant robin weight). |
compare to a good small petrol engine? (like the one used in the caterham
r500)?
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Bit like the guy who built the rover V8 powered reliant pro-street kitten. But build it from scratch to looky sporty and handle well. |
engine in it!!!
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MeatballTurbo <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote: I would seriously love to find a nice big Diesel V8 Oh why not got he whole hog and get one of the Gardner diesels that were fitted to Hunter/Killer subs? A straight sixteen with a supercharger with a manual clutch. |
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"MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote in message I was thinking more along the diesel supercar that you could afford to run type thing. Maybe even an NA W12 from a Taureg/Phaeton Hmm I bet you could get more than 400bhp out of the 5L V10 TDi the standard 313PS can't be the best the engine can do. Having had a quick look superchips will take it up to 356bhp & 855Nm. About the same bhp as a Chevrolet V8 5.7L V8 H.O. but twice the torque. Now we are thinking. V10 is good. |
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MeatballTurbo <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote: I would seriously love to find a nice big Diesel V8 Oh why not got he whole hog and get one of the Gardner diesels that were fitted to Hunter/Killer subs? A straight sixteen with a supercharger with a manual clutch. One of your better ideas  |
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MeatballTurbo wrote: In article <zO3kc.45$n3.22 (AT) newsfe2-gui (DOT) server.ntli.net>, finlayson1nospam (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com says... "MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.1afad3a6a7364aa998a109 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net... I would seriously love to find a nice big Diesel V8 (something from a greyhound bus like they use in monster trucks) Mid mount it in a nice spaceframe chassis (Something a little bigger than a lotus elise/VX220) and give it the turbo/supercharger combination to maximise torque all through the rev range. I bet it could do some wonderful things. stop giving me ideas here theres already been a perkins derv powered E30 I'm thinking 6->8 litres running in a chassis weighing arround 750- 800kgs (reliant robin weight). What is the power to weight ratio of a 6 litre diesel engine? How does it compare to a good small petrol engine? (like the one used in the caterham r500)? Bit like the guy who built the rover V8 powered reliant pro-street kitten. But build it from scratch to looky sporty and handle well. "Sporty", "handle well", you're going to have a huge monster with an 8 litre engine in it!!! Arround the middle of the car. |
start, you can make the suspension work surprisingly well, have brakes
that would haul it down, and have it handle too.
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In article <c6r5vn$1la8$1 (AT) news (DOT) f.de.plusline.net>, scott (AT) spam (DOT) com says... MeatballTurbo wrote: In article <zO3kc.45$n3.22 (AT) newsfe2-gui (DOT) server.ntli.net>, finlayson1nospam (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com says... "MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.1afad3a6a7364aa998a109 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net... I would seriously love to find a nice big Diesel V8 (something from a greyhound bus like they use in monster trucks) Mid mount it in a nice spaceframe chassis (Something a little bigger than a lotus elise/VX220) and give it the turbo/supercharger combination to maximise torque all through the rev range. I bet it could do some wonderful things. stop giving me ideas here theres already been a perkins derv powered E30 I'm thinking 6->8 litres running in a chassis weighing arround 750- 800kgs (reliant robin weight). What is the power to weight ratio of a 6 litre diesel engine? How does it compare to a good small petrol engine? (like the one used in the caterham r500)? Bit like the guy who built the rover V8 powered reliant pro-street kitten. But build it from scratch to looky sporty and handle well. "Sporty", "handle well", you're going to have a huge monster with an 8 litre engine in it!!! Arround the middle of the car. if you design and build the car to take that sort of weight from the start, you can make the suspension work surprisingly well, have brakes that would haul it down, and have it handle too. |
most heavy cars are designed to be heavy from the start? Is it not
something to do with the tyres? I think the coefficient of friction
decreases as the vertical load increases??? Would the same reasoning mean
that you wouldn't be able to corner as fast?
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I would seriously love to find a nice big Diesel V8 (something from a greyhound bus like they use in monster trucks) Mid mount it in a nice spaceframe chassis (Something a little bigger than a lotus elise/VX220) and give it the turbo/supercharger combination to maximise torque all through the rev range. I bet it could do some wonderful things. |
frugal, but it's capable of almost 16 mpg on a run whilst dragging about 4
tonne about.. It's also *VERY* fucking grunty, very smooth, and I think it's
all alloy
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Ford Capri !!!
Mercedes 500 SEL,
Scouse Git extraordinaire.
Liverpool, Great Britain
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In article <n76kc.1073$D4.870@newsfe6-win>, FuckOff (AT) WithThanks (DOT) com says... But if you turbo'd and fitted the same size petrol engine, it would be better. Define better (have we been here before? :-) Peter That was the whole point. I reckon with low down grunt, and a pretty good top end, it would make a excellent trackday motor. |
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