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Default Re: Hot Air Blower Onto Carb:: - 12-24-2003 , 03:59 AM






"Carl Gibbs" <cagmeister (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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Hi
Would an electrical hot air blower, bolted next to my
carb, heat it enough to prevent icing??
The one i have is meant to go on the dash .... it uses
10 amps (120watts).
The inbuilt carb heater consumes 2 amps and basically
doesn't work due to the k and n modifications (the
normal pre-heat kit is in the shed).

The heater can raise the temperature of an object 4
inches away by 60 centigrade within 2 minutes.
Obviously if this is an alloy carb the heat would quickly
"flow".

(Bearing in mind the carb normally gets roasted to
100 degrees during the summer months due to its location
so it shouldn't explode).

You could always try running copper (i think its copper) wire round
the
carb
and running a current through it. Its a trick i've heard of being
used
before on the rallying scene and definately works for iced up carbs.

Can't you just splice some hose into the cooling system, and wrap it
round
the carb ?

But when the car is cold, the water going round those pipes is cold!
But not for long.

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So if
you wanted it to work before you even started the car - that wouldnt work
Does carb-icing affect things that much ?




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Default Re: Hot Air Blower Onto Carb:: - 12-24-2003 , 08:15 AM






In article <bs9qm7$b43h8$1 (AT) ID-166528 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de>,
cagmeister (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk says...
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But when the car is cold, the water going round those pipes is cold!

But cold water is warmer than ice, and would keep things warmer than
freezing, just because it is moving.
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Default Re: Hot Air Blower Onto Carb:: - 12-24-2003 , 09:14 AM




"Nom" <Nom (AT) Somewhere (DOT) Somewhere> wrote

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"Carl Gibbs" <cagmeister (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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"Nom" <Nom (AT) Somewhere (DOT) Somewhere> wrote in message
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"Carl Gibbs" <cagmeister (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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"3.2Ghz+" <eveodds (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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Hi
Would an electrical hot air blower, bolted next to my
carb, heat it enough to prevent icing??
The one i have is meant to go on the dash .... it uses
10 amps (120watts).
The inbuilt carb heater consumes 2 amps and basically
doesn't work due to the k and n modifications (the
normal pre-heat kit is in the shed).

The heater can raise the temperature of an object 4
inches away by 60 centigrade within 2 minutes.
Obviously if this is an alloy carb the heat would quickly
"flow".

(Bearing in mind the carb normally gets roasted to
100 degrees during the summer months due to its location
so it shouldn't explode).

You could always try running copper (i think its copper) wire round
the
carb
and running a current through it. Its a trick i've heard of being
used
before on the rallying scene and definately works for iced up carbs.

Can't you just splice some hose into the cooling system, and wrap it
round
the carb ?

But when the car is cold, the water going round those pipes is cold!

But not for long.

So if
you wanted it to work before you even started the car - that wouldnt
work

Does carb-icing affect things that much ?

I know it can, learnt it in GCSE Geography i did. I remember watching a vid
about somehwre very cold (-20 or something like that) and a truck driver was
underneath with a flaming torch trying to melt the fuel in the fuel lines
which had turned to ice.




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Default Re: Hot Air Blower Onto Carb:: - 12-24-2003 , 09:16 AM




"MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote

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In article <bs9qm7$b43h8$1 (AT) ID-166528 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de>,
cagmeister (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk says...
But when the car is cold, the water going round those pipes is cold!

But cold water is warmer than ice, and would keep things warmer than
freezing, just because it is moving.
--
Indeed, but running a length of wire round the carb would be easier and
probably more efficient than running a length of pipe and then connecting it
up to the appropriate part of the cooling system




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Default Re: Hot Air Blower Onto Carb:: - 12-24-2003 , 09:38 AM



Carl Gibbs <cagmeister (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

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you wanted it to work before you even started the car - that wouldnt
work

Does carb-icing affect things that much ?

I know it can, learnt it in GCSE Geography i did. I remember watching a vid
about somehwre very cold (-20 or something like that) and a truck driver was
underneath with a flaming torch trying to melt the fuel in the fuel lines
which had turned to ice.
That's for a completely different reason, though.

Mainly because older derv formulations would become 'waxy' at very low
temperatures. Not frozen as such.

Of course, petrol needs _much_ lower temperatures to freeze - and carb
isicng is caused by moisture in the air freezing.
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VW Golf GL Cabrio (carb broken) - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 33 1.7ie
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Default Re: Hot Air Blower Onto Carb:: - 12-24-2003 , 02:33 PM




"SteveH" <steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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Carl Gibbs <cagmeister (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

you wanted it to work before you even started the car - that wouldnt
work

Does carb-icing affect things that much ?

I know it can, learnt it in GCSE Geography i did. I remember watching a
vid
about somehwre very cold (-20 or something like that) and a truck driver
was
underneath with a flaming torch trying to melt the fuel in the fuel
lines
which had turned to ice.

That's for a completely different reason, though.
I know, but i thought it was a funny story anyway, and was all related.
Quote:
Mainly because older derv formulations would become 'waxy' at very low
temperatures. Not frozen as such.

Of course, petrol needs _much_ lower temperatures to freeze - and carb
isicng is caused by moisture in the air freezing.
Fairy snuff




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Default Re: Hot Air Blower Onto Carb:: - 12-24-2003 , 05:37 PM




"Nom" <Nom (AT) Somewhere (DOT) Somewhere> wrote


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Does carb-icing affect things that much ?
When you are late for work it does.
The cure on my ax is to use more than 3/4 throttle, thus invoking
a fuel dump into the cylinders. (Or in other words, the second flapper
opens).
This is nasty ... you go from a hesitating , coughing , wheezing, weak
mixture running engine to full bang for your bucks literally over
1 mm of throttle movement.
Serious .... 1mm, >just< enough to start to open the second choke
and *bang* you are on your way.
Accelerating though, so its .......... on/off/on/off/on all the way to
work!!!
(E.G: The only time you don't accelerate when the second choke opens is when
you are going up a 1 in 10 hill in 5th gear).

Anyway ... merry christmas.


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