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Default Re: Induction kits - 04-29-2004 , 07:06 AM






You get lots of stupid answers because most things like this give you little
or no performance increase.

They are cosmetic 'go faster' accessories.

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Default Re: Induction kits - 04-29-2004 , 07:06 AM






I thought the whole point was to make more noise?

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Default Re: Induction kits - 04-29-2004 , 07:36 AM



The message <AW5kc.202$xm2.64@newsfe1-win>
from "Benjai" <sdgsd (AT) adf (DOT) com> contains these words:

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I was thinking of getting an Apiro air filter
Why?

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Default Re: Induction kits - 04-29-2004 , 08:11 AM



In article <3130303034323739409104CB81 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk>,
Guy King <guy.king (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
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I was thinking of getting an Apiro air filter

Why?
It has a nice name?

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Default Re: Induction kits - 04-29-2004 , 08:28 AM



The message <4ca73d03c0dave.sound (AT) argonet (DOT) co.uk>
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I was thinking of getting an Apiro air filter

Why?

It has a nice name?
And a proven track-record (in relieving teenagers of their dosh).

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Default Re: Induction kits - 04-29-2004 , 08:29 AM



In article <AW5kc.202$xm2.64@newsfe1-win>, sdgsd (AT) adf (DOT) com says...
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Cripes. Ask a simple question and you get so many stupid answers.

Thanks for this one. So whats the point of the cone itself if you cant fit
it on without all the pipes/fittings? Can you get those seperately? The
price difference is quite steep.

It allows the manufacturers to screw you twice.


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Default Re: Induction kits - 04-29-2004 , 09:26 AM



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Hello, I was wondering if someone could tell me the difference in the
contents between an induction kit (around 70-80 quid), and an induction
air filter (the cone things) which costs around 30. Why the massive
price difference?


Because the perceived 'improvement' is directly proportional to the amount
by which your wallet is lightened. If you're stupid enough to buy these
things.
I asked a similar question when I bought my 190E 2.6 (NOTE: Not as a bot
racr), and got a lot of people telling me that a K&N filter would
improve the longevity of my engine by cleaning the air more compleatly.
What that a heap of bull?

DV


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Default Re: Induction kits - 04-29-2004 , 09:38 AM



Daniel Vesma wrote:

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I asked a similar question when I bought my 190E 2.6 (NOTE: Not as a bot
racr), and got a lot of people telling me that a K&N filter would
improve the longevity of my engine by cleaning the air more compleatly.
What that a heap of bull?
Moooo!!!!

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Default Re: Induction kits - 04-29-2004 , 09:47 AM



The message <c6r3af$dev$1 (AT) titan (DOT) btinternet.com>
from Daniel Vesma <daniel.vesma (AT) neilvesma (DOT) com> contains these words:

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I asked a similar question when I bought my 190E 2.6 (NOTE: Not as a bot
racr), and got a lot of people telling me that a K&N filter would
improve the longevity of my engine by cleaning the air more compleatly.
What that a heap of bull?
Almost certainly. The filtration efficiency of paper filters is more
than adequate for engine use and anyway, engines usually outlast the
bodyshell these days - and have done for some years.

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Default Re: Induction kits - 04-29-2004 , 11:52 AM



"Benjai" <sdgsd (AT) adf (DOT) com> wrote

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Cripes. Ask a simple question and you get so many stupid answers.
Look, basically a "freeflow" air filter will slightly improve the breathing
of the engine. Indeed many respected tuning houses will recommend fitting
one of these but in conjuction with other mods, like a sports exhaust
manifold and system, a hotter cam and a different fuel set up.

You might get, what, an extra 1bhp from your engine? The long pipe induction
kit is usually used as underbonnet bling, and because it's metal it
resonates differently under acceleration. So you get more noise.

It's usually more beneficial to make your own long ducting (from salvaged
intake trunking at the scrapyard) to a so-called cone filter somewhere in
cold fast airflow - like to the side and in front of the radiator by an open
intake in whatever body mouling your car has got. It costs very little.
These things attach with little more than jubilee clips. If you're orifice
diameters don't match up simply sleeve with more or less trunking. It's only
air that you're guiding not an fuel/air mixture. As long as the unions are
reasonably secure, and you're working upstream of things like airflow meters
etc then you'll be fine with DIY.

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