And you can eat it if you get a headache......No hold on that's an
ASPRIN.....!
"Guy King" <guy.king (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Get a panel filer for original air box

K&N Panel filters

Flow better than any filter

Clean the air better than any filter

Need cleaning regularly

I'd recommend them!

On my last car changed the air filter once in 5 years - cleaned it every 6
months

Two things here!

A) Induction Kits

B) Better filtration

A) can lower power through hot air intake

B) Usually means a little more power but mainly a filter you clean rather
than throw away, which is more efficient

Apparently on date Fri, 30 Apr 2004 08:33:11 +0000 (UTC), "Martin \(Please note
spammers email address used\)" <avtoteplo (AT) altern (DOT) org> said:

I'm wondering about this a bit. Cold air is denser, no error there, but the
fuel computer takes air mass into account when adding the petrol via the
injectors.

At part throttle, you're holding the pedal in a position that achieves the
power necessary to maintain speed. If you have warm air, this means your pedal
is slightly further to the floor, but you're using no more fuel than with cold
air and a higher pedal. In fact, you'd be drawing in exactly the same mass of
air whatever the temperature, and injecting the same mass of fuel per cycle.

The density could mean the mixture is slightly more spread out in the cylinder,
so flame front would be slightly slower propagating, however that means,
surely, you could run a slightly higher compression ratio and not knock.

At higher engine speeds, my gut feel is the engine will have less air in it and
that means less power, but as a long ducting will cause a higher manifold
vacuum, I'm not sure this would have a real effect at all, without doing some
practical tests.

There must be some reason why this isn't how it works, because modern cars all
seem to take their feed from the cooler air next to the radiator, and they've
tested this extensively, right?

Sales! wrote:
"part throttle" is the operative phrase in your statement.

At full throttle, the cooler the air, the denser it is, so the more air you
can fit in there, so the more fuel can be injected, so the more power you
make.

The message <c6t306$qpp$1 (AT) titan (DOT) btinternet.com>
from "Martin \(Please note spammers email address used\)"
<avtoteplo (AT) altern (DOT) org> contains these words:

Why? What are their benefits? You'd listed a few attributes, but it's
not clear than they are advantageous.

--
"Bother", said Skipweasel as he molished a little jig.

The message <c6td7p0diq (AT) news3 (DOT) newsguy.com>
from "Nom" <Nom (AT) Somewhere (DOT) Somewhere> contains these words:

Frankly, the kind of kids who drive around at full throttle are exactly
the sort that these toys are designed to seperate from their money.

--
"Bother", said Skipweasel as he molished a little jig.

In article <7mt4901a284sqn8v4srvcsgo14otjk1k8r (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Peter Hill <peter.usenet1 (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote:
And f**k up the tuned inlet tract.

--
*Middle age is when it takes longer to rest than to get tired.

Dave Plowman dave.sound (AT) argonet (DOT) co.uk London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Apparently on date Fri, 30 Apr 2004 14:38:50 +0100, Guy King
<guy.king (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> said:

K&N make decent filters, to be fair. I wouldn't have a problem putting one in,
although I wouldn't expect much difference over the paper element, except of
course the longer life and option to clean the filter.

If you modify the car, though, the airflow arrangements are almost certainly
not up to the increased airflow the modified engine will demand, what with us
being in rec.car.mods among other places.

Easiest way to do this is take off the trunking from the MAF upwards and put a
conical filter on it. It's unlikely your car manufacturer sells a filter for
when you do this, but K&N will.