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Default Re: Low Maintenance Reliable Small Hatch? - 01-30-2007 , 09:41 AM






VW cars don't come out that great in the reliability reports (well made
interiors do not make a reliable car)

If reliability is all then you cannot do worse than go Japanese -
almera/corollas etc

And if you want reliable but don't want to pay for anything until it breaks
down (probably not the best way in the longer term) get the oil changed
annually at least

A C wrote:
Quote:
We've recently seen a lot of low mileage (20/30k) FSH 2001/2002 Skoda
Fabia
1.4's going through the auctions for sub £2k


Same specs/design as the 2002 VW Polo & easy to maintain



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Default Re: Low Maintenance Reliable Small Hatch? - 01-30-2007 , 11:26 AM






In message <sm2tr2pugek0q4020aa2f1t05uur50hfdm (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, John
<uk (AT) nYg (DOT) com> writes
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Thanks for all the advice.

I think I would also have to give the Focus a miss too because
speaking to a few people who own one of them as well, the headlights
on them don't sound like they are much easier to change yourself and
have the same issues as the Megane.

I have always liked Seat's and I like the design of the Leon. Is it
Reliable and easy to maintain though? A few people here have been
saying that VW's are not as reliable as they used to be or as well
made and Seat is part of VAG now so....?

I am thinking I probably will have to go for Honda or Toyota next.

I wonder how long it will take for car manufacturers to get it into
their heads that we also want a good value, reliable, easy to maintain
well built car with a good spec? I'm not surprised a lot of car
manufacturers are up a creek with only one paddle at the moment in
Europe and especially America.

John


My 52 plate 48k mile Leon:

Bought with 2 months left on manufacturers warranty, in that time it
had:

New climate control back light
New TCS switch
New dash dimmer
Door seals hold water

Out of warranty:

Air Con compressor failed, noisily and expensively
Side window motor smashed the glass


Currently:
Losing coolant, no leaks
Door seals holding water again
Starts first time, but not always on 4 cylinders


Not Seats fault, but more evidence that I've got "one of those cars":
Stonechip in windscreen - fixed cheaply
1 week later windscreen randomly cracks while parked in work car park
Car broken into using famed security flaw, had to delock


On the plus side I changed a headlight bulb in two minutes!

Waiting for the worst of winter to be done with and then going to trade
it in for something reliable. New civic is out of budget probably, so
looking at Almera/Focus, hadn't considered the Corolla until this
thread, so they're in as well.

No Golfs for me, too pricey and other half has a Polo which although
much better than previous Ka is starting to get a couple of niggles now
it's just out of warranty.

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Default Re: Low Maintenance Reliable Small Hatch? - 01-30-2007 , 06:23 PM




"Iridium" <iridiumdan (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote

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"Tim S Kemp" <news (AT) timkemp (DOT) karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Fraser Johnston <fraser (AT) jcis (DOT) com.au> wrote:

How often do you change the headlights anyway????

Can be a lot if he drives with them always on - cheapies from motor
factors / halfords lasted 2-3 months in the Volvo making them a pain to
keep changing (although volvo make it easy) - that's about 8000 miles,
which is probably 1-2 yrs for normal night driving use. Changing to Volvo
OE long-life (they do a longlife bulb for about 3 quid more than the
standard one) extended it to 9-12 mths.

If you've got hard to change lamps then I'd definitely recommend buying
replacements from a Volvo dealer - same went for tail lamps too.


Then I suspect there was something wrong with your Volvo...

I've never had a headlight bulb go, including a Triumph Acclaim, 25k miles
in a 405, 30k on the 206 and they're automatic so get to flick on and off
going through tunnels and everything. Blew a tail light on a 50cc bike
once making it do 60mph down a hill... (they're on some kinda half dyno
system).


well on volvo's they are always on, HID's are the answer there
i was surprised how easy my 328 is for changing headlight bulbs. with the
lump of an engine in there i was expecting it to be tight and fiddley and to
lose some knuckles but nope! not even any swearing involved




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Default Re: Low Maintenance Reliable Small Hatch? - 01-31-2007 , 07:35 AM



"Vamp" <None (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote in
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well on volvo's they are always on, HID's are the answer there
i was surprised how easy my 328 is for changing headlight bulbs. with
the lump of an engine in there i was expecting it to be tight and
fiddley and to lose some knuckles but nope! not even any swearing
involved



Not necessarily. My 10 year old Volvo features a small screw head in the
corner of the lightswitch that can be turned to disable the daytime running
lamps. I expect that all newer models feature this also, but it seems that
many owners prefer to leave them working.

Personally, I prefer to use dipped headlights in any conditions at all that
warrant lighting, e.g. dull and/or rainy days, so I don't bother with the
daytime running feature because sidelights do nothing to improve visibility
in bright conditions.


Stu

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Default Re: Low Maintenance Reliable Small Hatch? - 01-31-2007 , 07:36 AM



Stu <nospam (AT) thanks (DOT) com> wrote:

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Not necessarily. My 10 year old Volvo features a small screw head in
the
corner of the lightswitch that can be turned to disable the daytime
running
lamps. I expect that all newer models feature this also, but it seems
that
many owners prefer to leave them working.

Personally, I prefer to use dipped headlights in any conditions at
all that warrant lighting, e.g. dull and/or rainy days, so I don't
bother with the
daytime running feature because sidelights do nothing to improve
visibility
in bright conditions.
New Volvos have a Vadis option to turn DRL on or off, most dealers will do
it free as part of a service or when collecting a new / used car. Or buying
lots of headlamp bulbs.

I prefer them on, and the auto setting on the merc comes on quite early.


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Default Re: Low Maintenance Reliable Small Hatch? - 01-31-2007 , 05:00 PM



"Iridium" <iridiumdan (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote

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In news:sm2tr2pugek0q4020aa2f1t05uur50hfdm (AT) 4ax (DOT) com,
John <uk (AT) nYg (DOT) com> wittered on forthwith;
Thanks for all the advice.

I think I would also have to give the Focus a miss too because
speaking to a few people who own one of them as well, the headlights
on them don't sound like they are much easier to change yourself and
have the same issues as the Megane.

I have always liked Seat's and I like the design of the Leon. Is it
Reliable and easy to maintain though? A few people here have been
saying that VW's are not as reliable as they used to be or as well
made and Seat is part of VAG now so....?

I quite like the Seat Leon. Drives 10 times better than a Mk5 Golf.,
is cheaper and doesn't have the "prestige" bollocks about it.

My choices would be as following.

1. Focus.
2. Focus.
3. Focus.
4. Leon.
5. Walking
6. Golf.


Ah I thought it was you that liked the Leon. Have you ever driven a
Cupra R one?

Not yet, but the 1.8 normal one I drove a few hundred miles was a nice
enough car. Not as good handling as a Focus, but otherwise a nice car.

How do they fare reliability wise?

Seemingly better than Volvo.

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Default Re: Low Maintenance Reliable Small Hatch? - 01-31-2007 , 05:01 PM



"Iridium" <iridiumdan (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote

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"Pete M" <pete.murray (AT) bogoffwithzepressedmeatblueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote in
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In news:sm2tr2pugek0q4020aa2f1t05uur50hfdm (AT) 4ax (DOT) com,
John <uk (AT) nYg (DOT) com> wittered on forthwith;
Thanks for all the advice.

I think I would also have to give the Focus a miss too because
speaking to a few people who own one of them as well, the headlights
on them don't sound like they are much easier to change yourself and
have the same issues as the Megane.

I have always liked Seat's and I like the design of the Leon. Is it
Reliable and easy to maintain though? A few people here have been
saying that VW's are not as reliable as they used to be or as well
made and Seat is part of VAG now so....?

I quite like the Seat Leon. Drives 10 times better than a Mk5 Golf., is
cheaper and doesn't have the "prestige" bollocks about it.

My choices would be as following.

1. Focus.
2. Focus.
3. Focus.
4. Leon.
5. Walking
6. Golf.


Ah I thought it was you that liked the Leon. Have you ever driven a Cupra
R one?

He does.

And the Cupra R is great in a sort of "this isn't quite German in the way it
drives but it's fun nevertheless" way. I like it.

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Default Re: Low Maintenance Reliable Small Hatch? - 01-31-2007 , 05:02 PM



"John" <uk (AT) nYg (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Thanks for all the advice.

I think I would also have to give the Focus a miss too because
speaking to a few people who own one of them as well, the headlights
on them don't sound like they are much easier to change yourself and
have the same issues as the Megane.
Errr, no.

Replacing a headlight bulb yes, the rest of it, no.

Quote:
I have always liked Seat's and I like the design of the Leon. Is it
Reliable and easy to maintain though? A few people here have been
saying that VW's are not as reliable as they used to be or as well
made and Seat is part of VAG now so....?

I am thinking I probably will have to go for Honda or Toyota next.
Check to see how easy (or not) it is to replace a Civic headlight bulb.

Quote:
I wonder how long it will take for car manufacturers to get it into
their heads that we also want a good value, reliable, easy to maintain
well built car with a good spec?
None.

Replacing a headlight bulb on just about *anything* isn't easy.

Deal with it.

Quote:
I'm not surprised a lot of car
manufacturers are up a creek with only one paddle at the moment in
Europe and especially America.


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Default Re: Low Maintenance Reliable Small Hatch? - 02-01-2007 , 03:38 AM



DervMan wrote:

Quote:
I am thinking I probably will have to go for Honda or Toyota next.

Check to see how easy (or not) it is to replace a Civic headlight bulb.
Or a Corolla :-)

Chris

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John Laird
 
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Default Re: Low Maintenance Reliable Small Hatch? - 02-01-2007 , 12:35 PM



On Jan 31, 10:02 pm, "DervMan" <thederv... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Check to see how easy (or not) it is to replace a Civic headlight bulb.
Hmm, you mean: remove back cover, remove bulb holder, replace bulb,
refit holder, refit back cover ? (I think the air intake hose may
have to come off on the driver's side, though.)

Access to the indicator bulbs does require removal of some lining in
the wheel arches.

None of the bulbs on my Civic requires a trip to the dealers or
anything like.

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