 | |
Missed opportunity for Ford??
Cars Modifications Aspects of car modifications (tuning, styling) (uk.rec.cars.modifications)
 |
| | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | Display Modes |
#11
 
| |||
| |||
|
Re: Missed opportunity for Ford?? -
04-26-2004
, 03:58 AM
|
PS: How quick are these modern diesels in the real world? 0-100? 1/4 mile? Only every taken them on test drives you see... Same as their petrol counterparts. 150bhp of Diesel power gives pretty much the same performance as 150bhp of Petrol power, obviously  |
world" tho
I think it would be fair to say that in the true real world (i.e.
everyday driving that does not involve a drag strip or thrashing the
tits off of the car), 150bhp of DERV will provide better performance
than 150bhp of PERV, due to the much higher torque output.
--
Lordy
#12
| |||
| |||
|
|
Anyways if Ford would bolt the 130 2 litre duratec engine into the Focus (it will fit) with the 6 speed ST box then we'd have a cracker and could fully mop the floor with the golf! Instead we have to put up with the lame 1.8 re-hashed endura de.- which are about fully stretched with 115brake btw. Why not stick it into the Fiesta or Ka, and have a sporty warm hatch in |
--
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
#13
| |||
| |||
|
|
I think it would be fair to say that in the true real world (i.e. everyday driving that does not involve a drag strip or thrashing the tits off of the car), 150bhp of DERV will provide better performance than 150bhp of PERV, due to the much higher torque output. |
the petrol engined road vehicle on this here Usenet forever more.
Plus, it would make an excellent cover for further exploring the
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica hierarchy.
(c:
Douglas
#14
| |||
| |||
|
|
In article <c6iesj$3m2$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com>, " Tim \(Remove NOSPAM." <the.farm (AT) NOSPAMbtinternet (DOT) com> says... Anyways if Ford would bolt the 130 2 litre duratec engine into the Focus (it will fit) with the 6 speed ST box then we'd have a cracker and could fully mop the floor with the golf! Instead we have to put up with the lame 1.8 re-hashed endura de.- which are about fully stretched with 115brake btw. Why not stick it into the Fiesta or Ka, and have a sporty warm hatch in the same size category as the Fabia/Ibiza/Polo. |
You tell me!?!?
Ford have been messing about for longer than they should with the Fester
ST170 which should be on sale now, but isnt cos someone messed up with the
CAD computer and they didnt discover the 6 speed box wouldnt fit the planned
track width until they'd built a prototype! So a Diesel sporty Fester- wait
until next year at the earliest!
Tim..
#15
| |||
| |||
|
|
"MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote in message news:MPG.1af6e32d4f6d3e7c98a0da (AT) news (DOT) individual.net... In article <c6iesj$3m2$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com>, " Tim \(Remove NOSPAM." <the.farm (AT) NOSPAMbtinternet (DOT) com> says... Anyways if Ford would bolt the 130 2 litre duratec engine into the Focus (it will fit) with the 6 speed ST box then we'd have a cracker and could fully mop the floor with the golf! Instead we have to put up with the lame 1.8 re-hashed endura de.- which are about fully stretched with 115brake btw. Why not stick it into the Fiesta or Ka, and have a sporty warm hatch in the same size category as the Fabia/Ibiza/Polo. You tell me!?!? Ford have been messing about for longer than they should with the Fester ST170 which should be on sale now, but isnt cos someone messed up with the CAD computer and they didnt discover the 6 speed box wouldnt fit the planned track width until they'd built a prototype! So a Diesel sporty Fester- wait until next year at the earliest! Tim.. You would really think they would have the hang of CAD machines by now |
A Diesel SportKa with the track pushed out by bigger bubble arches might
be easier.
--
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
#16
| |||
| |||
|
|
PS: How quick are these modern diesels in the real world? 0-100? 1/4 mile? Only every taken them on test drives you see... Same as their petrol counterparts. 150bhp of Diesel power gives pretty much the same performance as 150bhp of Petrol power, obviously Golf listed below : 1.9 GT TDI 150bhp 134mph, 0-60 in 8.3 2.3 V5 150bhp, 134mph, 0-60 in 8.5 |
turbocharged compared to turbocharged.
Though the figures would probably be broadly similar.
Peter
#17
| |||
| |||
|
|
I think it would be fair to say that in the true real world (i.e. everyday driving that does not involve a drag strip or thrashing the tits off of the car), 150bhp of DERV will provide better performance than 150bhp of PERV, due to the much higher torque output. I am so tempted to change my Nickname to Pervman and extoll the virtues of the petrol engined road vehicle on this here Usenet forever more. |
Peter
#18
| |||
| |||
|
|
I think it would be fair to say that in the true real world (i.e. everyday driving that does not involve a drag strip or thrashing the tits off of the car), 150bhp of DERV will provide better performance than 150bhp of PERV, due to the much higher torque output. |
engine with a 150bhp turbocharged diesel engine?
Would the difference really be all that much?
Peter
#19
| |||
| |||
|
|
I mean, I've heard the 2.2HDi engine is reliably tunable to around 200bhp, so surely the 130bhp 2.0TDCi should reach a good 160-170bhp, no? You are quite right, I told the Ford marketing guys this soon after the PD150 Golf came out, but it fell on partially deaf ears. Yes we do have the TDCI Sport, - a dieselised version of the ST170- though I am unclear whether the diesel version actually has the wider track and the 300mm brakes that the petrol car has- anyone got one? Anyways if Ford would bolt the 130 2 litre duratec engine into the Focus (it will fit) with the 6 speed ST box then we'd have a cracker and could fully mop the floor with the golf! Instead we have to put up with the lame 1.8 re-hashed endura de.- which are about fully stretched with 115brake btw. |
Erm... I don't think it is, the you're confusing the TDI engine with the
TDCi engine. The TDCi is a completely new design (joint venture with PSA)
and pretty good from what I've heard, and the 1.8 litre version had 115bhp,
so I'm sure it's that one.
AFAIK the furthest the Endura-DI went to was 90bhp. To be fair, it was a
fairly reliable hardy engine, and reasonably economical. My Fiesta one had
135k on it and always started first time (ok, so the oil cooler developed
some sort of crack, causing gunge to bung up the engine, and I chose to sell
it for spares/repair rather than fix it), and was pretty economical (general
driving returned aroun 53mpg, and a long gentle run at 60mph would top
60mpg). Ok, so the Endura-DI isn't as good as Pug/Cit engines of a similar
age (obviously the HDIs are better, but I'd guess the older TDs probably
outdo it as well) but it's not a bad bit of kit and fairly cheap as well.
Peter
#20
| |||
| |||
|
|
The other day I was poking about outside a Ford dealership (contemplating asking if they might be able to decode my Fiesta radio for a fair price, like less than a tenner, the answer was no btw) Your local Car Audio place will be able to do it. Mine charges £12 - take a look in your Yellow Pages |
(there's a 5-digit code written in pen on a sticker on it, so I tried the
first four and last four digits of that, plus the last 4 digits of the
serial number) and basically I'm locked out of the "enter code" mode - it
now just displays "10". Will they still be able to sort it.
A bit irrelevant as I'm selling it very soon now anyway!
Peter
|
« Previous Thread
|
Next Thread »
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
| Display Modes | |
Linear Mode
| |
Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.