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Re: Mitsubishi GTO - Opinions? -
07-30-2004
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"**-**" <nospam (AT) tamate (DOT) com> wrote in message news:2n01c0FrbfmaU1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de... a> wrote in message news:410a8e35$0$6445$cc9e4d1f (AT) news-text (DOT) dial.pipex.com... Ok then, how about this one (you all successfully put me off the XJSV12) Early 90's Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo. Seem to be a lot around, 300+ bhp for around £4k can't be bad? Insurance is suprisingly affordable. Anyone owned one or got any comments, good or bad? The 4WD would be nice, has anyone ever had 4WS before - is it an appreciable difference? Lots of stuff to go wrong but fairly common so presumably not too hard to sort out and replace parts if needed? Cheers, Dan I had one for about 3 weeks. The only japanese car I've ever brought and how long I had it should give you a clue as to my opinion of it. Its heavy, slow and generaly bloody awful. They might have 300 odd BHP like all the best jap 4wd's but (and its a BIG BUT) they weigh 1750KG's odd and the 4wd System is awful sapping a good 20% of the flywheel BHP, basicaly you have 300bhp at the fly, which by the time it reaches the wheels is 240bhp, even power to weight worked out on the 300bhp figure is only 171bhp/tonne. 0-60 is only quick'ish because of grip available, after 70mph they feel very slow. Gearboxes tend to explode every other Tuesday and clutches on most Thursdays. Utter shite and if you buy an old one thats been 'used' it'll cost. Oh and the interiors are shite and you need a medallion and a chest wig should you buy a red one. Matt So you didn't like it then? ;-) Not sure I'm worried at all about the speed, I'm certain it'll be more than enough for every day use - it might not be a supercar but it's still pretty quick compared to most stuff on the roads. More worried about the gearbox/clutch issue you mentioned - is it a well known failure point on these? What are the problems with the interior? Wouldn't buy a red one, would have to be black or silver probably (the one I've currently got my eye on is silver). Cheers, Dan |
for two grand (trade in to mates dealership) I wasn't going to turn it down
as it looked like reasonable fun. Gearbox went bang at Bruntingthorpe -
understandable you may think but I'd only done one and a half laps!! Put a
clutch in it and bolted a second hand box on (that was fun to get hold of at
anywhere near reasonable money), lunched the next clutch within 2000 miles -
clutch to small for the weight of the car and grip available. Clutch job
isn't easy either. I flogged it on in the local paper for 3 grand and was
glad to be rid of it.
Interiors are usual jap dross, cheap rattley plastics and rubbish
ergonomics.
Matt
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There's the medallion man image but I'm sure you're used to that with a Firebird ;-) If you get one with 320bhp it still only works out at about 190bhp/ton so it's not going to be that quick, it depends on what you're used to. a> wrote in message news:410aa643$0$6444$cc9e4d1f (AT) news-text (DOT) dial.pipex.com... Not bothered about size and weight - current car is a Pontiac Firebird so well used to it. Surely with 320 odd bhp the weight isn't a great issue, it's still going to move at a fair rate! Hopefully might test drive one at a local garage this weekend. |
the way while I'm young and can pull them off without looking too dumb.
Wasn't aware the GTO had such a medallion man image problem...
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with 320 odd bhp the weight isn't a great issue, it's still going to move at a fair rate! They're something like 1,800 kg, though |
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"DervMan" <dervman (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:2mvo56Fr6o18U1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de... a> wrote in message news:410aa643$0$6444$cc9e4d1f (AT) news-text (DOT) dial.pipex.com... "Vamp" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote in message news:410a9c37$0$6447$cc9e4d1f (AT) news-text (DOT) dial.pipex.com... a> wrote in message news:410a8e35$0$6445$cc9e4d1f (AT) news-text (DOT) dial.pipex.com... Ok then, how about this one (you all successfully put me off the XJSV12) Early 90's Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo. Seem to be a lot around, 300+ bhp for around £4k can't be bad? Insurance is suprisingly affordable. Anyone owned one or got any comments, good or bad? The 4WD would be nice, has anyone ever had 4WS before - is it an appreciable difference? Lots of stuff to go wrong but fairly common so presumably not too hard to sort out and replace parts if needed? not well liked for there size and weight and handerling is meant to be a bit crappy too, better off with a skyline or a 200SX or *cough* MR2 turbo  anyway IMO there nice, saw lots of the at last weekends JAE, great motors but parts are ££££'s if they go wrong but being jap is normally really unlucky or because someone cut back on services... Not bothered about size and weight - current car is a Pontiac Firebird so well used to it. Surely with 320 odd bhp the weight isn't a great issue, it's still going to move at a fair rate! Hopefully might test drive one at a local garage this weekend. They're something like 1,800 kg, though, so yes there's plenty of power but there's plenty of weight to lug about too. I've read that the interior is typically Japanese and the handling and ride is tilted towards the "crossing the continent on the motorway" rather than "crossing the country via the back roads." But this probably isn't an issue! Excuse my ignorance, but what's a "typically Japanese" interior? Used to my Americans (lots of tacky plastic and cupholders) so doubt it'll be much worse! Any risk going for an older one? Seen a 91 advertised at £4k, low mileage and service history so could be good. |
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Interiors are usual jap dross, cheap rattley plastics and rubbish ergonomics. He owns a pontiac, he will be used to plastic. |
Carl Robson
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http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
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"Homer" <feckinstupid (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:2n03rrFq8blhU1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de... There's the medallion man image but I'm sure you're used to that with a Firebird ;-) If you get one with 320bhp it still only works out at about 190bhp/ton so it's not going to be that quick, it depends on what you're used to. a> wrote in message news:410aa643$0$6444$cc9e4d1f (AT) news-text (DOT) dial.pipex.com... Not bothered about size and weight - current car is a Pontiac Firebird so well used to it. Surely with 320 odd bhp the weight isn't a great issue, it's still going to move at a fair rate! Hopefully might test drive one at a local garage this weekend. No medallions in my cars! I'm trying to get my "midlife crisis" cars out of the way while I'm young and can pull them off without looking too dumb. Wasn't aware the GTO had such a medallion man image problem... It was intended to be a Japanese Ferrari, before the NSX came along and |
Americans like them, but then they like the Firebird too.
But as it happens I'm with you on this. If I had the money to fuel one,
just for once I would have to own an XJS, a Firebird, or a GTO/GT3k.
Yes, I was a child in the 70's and did my growing up in the eighties, I
guess I must have a medallion in the closet somewhere too.
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Carl Robson
(The poster formerly known as Skodapilot)
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
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In article <2n04khFqi3seU1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de>, nospam (AT) tamate (DOT) com spouted forth into uk.rec.cars.modifications... Interiors are usual jap dross, cheap rattley plastics and rubbish ergonomics. He owns a pontiac, he will be used to plastic. -- Carl Robson (The poster formerly known as Skodapilot) http://www.bouncing-czechs.com |
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"**-**" <nospam (AT) tamate (DOT) com> wrote in message Gearboxes tend to explode every other Tuesday and clutches on most Thursdays. Utter shite and if you buy an old one thats been 'used' it'll cost. Oh and the interiors are shite and you need a medallion and a chest wig should you buy a red one. Matt Not sure I'm worried at all about the speed, I'm certain it'll be more than enough for every day use - it might not be a supercar but it's still pretty quick compared to most stuff on the roads. More worried about the gearbox/clutch issue you mentioned - is it a well known failure point on these? |
Imprezza ate clutches like smarties. Then again Skyline ones seem to take quite
a bit of abuse is the owners I know are anything to go by.
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They seem to be quite common weak spots on most 4wd Jap stuff, I remember the Imprezza ate clutches like smarties. Then again Skyline ones seem to take quite a bit of abuse is the owners I know are anything to go by. But Pulsar GTiR's eat clutches like allbran. |
I've known one or two people who go through about 3 a year driving
normally because the car is modded.
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a> wrote "**-**" <nospam (AT) tamate (DOT) com> wrote in message Gearboxes tend to explode every other Tuesday and clutches on most Thursdays. Utter shite and if you buy an old one thats been 'used' it'll cost. Oh and the interiors are shite and you need a medallion and a chest wig should you buy a red one. Matt Not sure I'm worried at all about the speed, I'm certain it'll be more than enough for every day use - it might not be a supercar but it's still pretty quick compared to most stuff on the roads. More worried about the gearbox/clutch issue you mentioned - is it a well known failure point on these? They seem to be quite common weak spots on most 4wd Jap stuff, I remember the Imprezza ate clutches like smarties. Then again Skyline ones seem to take quite a bit of abuse is the owners I know are anything to go by. |
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