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MK2 Golf GTi suspension -
12-02-2005
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I need to sort the suspension on my Golf out. Currently the options look like this: cheap Bilstein kit (Streetline IIRC, Bilstein shocks and Eibach springs, 35/40mm drop) cheap Boge kit (40mm drop again) VW spec springs (do springs age other than sagging?) and Bilstein dampers More expensive options would be the next Bilsteins up the range, Gaz and Koni kits, but that's £300 instead of £180. Tyres and wheels look like being G60 winter wheels (15inch x 6, ET35, and 195/50 tyres to keep the radius the same). Polybushes could also be on the agenda. I'm not bothered about a drop unless it's going to give better handling on B roads, rather than tracks. I want to get over speedhumps. The 8V is already dropped 10mm from a standard Golf, and I suspect the springs will have sagged a bit over 114k, so I doubt the drop is going to be much more than 20mm on a 40mm drop kit. What do you reckon? |
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"Doki" <mrdoki (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:dmq5up$7r6$1 (AT) news (DOT) freedom2surf.net... I need to sort the suspension on my Golf out. Currently the options look like this: cheap Bilstein kit (Streetline IIRC, Bilstein shocks and Eibach springs, 35/40mm drop) cheap Boge kit (40mm drop again) VW spec springs (do springs age other than sagging?) and Bilstein dampers More expensive options would be the next Bilsteins up the range, Gaz and Koni kits, but that's £300 instead of £180. Tyres and wheels look like being G60 winter wheels (15inch x 6, ET35, and 195/50 tyres to keep the radius the same). Polybushes could also be on the agenda. I'm not bothered about a drop unless it's going to give better handling on B roads, rather than tracks. I want to get over speedhumps. The 8V is already dropped 10mm from a standard Golf, and I suspect the springs will have sagged a bit over 114k, so I doubt the drop is going to be much more than 20mm on a 40mm drop kit. What do you reckon? PS: Geometry will be setup after, obviously. |
others. Anyone seen them and know?
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cheap Bilstein kit (Streetline IIRC, Bilstein shocks and Eibach springs, 35/40mm drop) cheap Boge kit (40mm drop again) VW spec springs (do springs age other than sagging?) and Bilstein dampers You forgot budget KYB or Sachs struts, with decent springs, with minimal |
Find a local spring maker where the local rally boys get theirs sorted.
"Coil springs" is based in Sheffield.
http://www.coilsprings.co.uk/
And Yukspeed are in north Yorshire.
http://www.yukspeed.com/
Both I'm sure would know what the best spring specs are for a lower M2,
even though Yuks are Escort specialists.
And if either of them make you some new springs it is going to be
cheaper than "fandango deluxe" branded springs.
Also, check demon tweaks for it's standard spring lenghts, diameters and
weights. Might be something that will just slap on.
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Carl Robson
Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
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I need to sort the suspension on my Golf out. Currently the options look like this: cheap Bilstein kit (Streetline IIRC, Bilstein shocks and Eibach springs, 35/40mm drop) cheap Boge kit (40mm drop again) VW spec springs (do springs age other than sagging?) and Bilstein dampers More expensive options would be the next Bilsteins up the range, Gaz and Koni kits, but that's £300 instead of £180. Tyres and wheels look like being G60 winter wheels (15inch x 6, ET35, and 195/50 tyres to keep the radius the same). Polybushes could also be on the agenda. I'm not bothered about a drop unless it's going to give better handling on B roads, rather than tracks. I want to get over speedhumps. The 8V is already dropped 10mm from a standard Golf, and I suspect the springs will have sagged a bit over 114k, so I doubt the drop is going to be much more than 20mm on a 40mm drop kit. What do you reckon? |
adjustable gas jobbies) as I was on a budget and didnt want it lowered
(rallying and all that) and they work a treat. I got them from ECP pretty
cheap, so they might stock Golf ones too.
For the Volvo I'm gonna give KYB a chance as that's the only ones I can
find. Possible a pair of springs too!
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In article <dmq5up$7r6$1 (AT) news (DOT) freedom2surf.net>, mrdoki (AT) gmail (DOT) com says... cheap Bilstein kit (Streetline IIRC, Bilstein shocks and Eibach springs, 35/40mm drop) cheap Boge kit (40mm drop again) VW spec springs (do springs age other than sagging?) and Bilstein dampers You forgot budget KYB or Sachs struts, with decent springs, with minimal lowering for looks without getting stupid. Find a local spring maker where the local rally boys get theirs sorted. "Coil springs" is based in Sheffield. http://www.coilsprings.co.uk/ And Yukspeed are in north Yorshire. http://www.yukspeed.com/ Both I'm sure would know what the best spring specs are for a lower M2, even though Yuks are Escort specialists. And if either of them make you some new springs it is going to be cheaper than "fandango deluxe" branded springs. Also, check demon tweaks for it's standard spring lenghts, diameters and weights. Might be something that will just slap on. |
corner weights balanced out a bit I suppose, but it seems a bit much for a
road car. TBH if I were going for custom springs, it'd probably end up the
same ride height as standard. Is there some sort of superior springyness?
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Is there some sort of superior springyness? Well, not all springs are the same. |
stiffen over big hits because the middle section of the spring is hard.
Some are just a "heavier" spring rate so they are just stiffer.
Some are shorter or longer and stiffer or looser.
A good spring maker will take all that into account, and still probably
be cheaper than a branded pack.
If it is a popular track/race or rally car, tell them what you want and
it might even be off the shelf if it isn't something stupid.
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Carl Robson
Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
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In article <dmuqf4$j54$1 (AT) news (DOT) freedom2surf.net>, mrdoki (AT) gmail (DOT) com says... Is there some sort of superior springyness? Well, not all springs are the same. Some have different rates at the ends, so they take small ripples, but stiffen over big hits because the middle section of the spring is hard. |
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Dan
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I need to sort the suspension on my Golf out. Currently the options look like this: cheap Bilstein kit (Streetline IIRC, Bilstein shocks and Eibach springs, 35/40mm drop) cheap Boge kit (40mm drop again) VW spec springs (do springs age other than sagging?) and Bilstein dampers More expensive options would be the next Bilsteins up the range, Gaz and Koni kits, but that's £300 instead of £180. Tyres and wheels look like being G60 winter wheels (15inch x 6, ET35, and 195/50 tyres to keep the radius the same). Polybushes could also be on the agenda. I'm not bothered about a drop unless it's going to give better handling on B roads, rather than tracks. I want to get over speedhumps. The 8V is already dropped 10mm from a standard Golf, and I suspect the springs will have sagged a bit over 114k, so I doubt the drop is going to be much more than 20mm on a 40mm drop kit. What do you reckon? |
Bilsteins on the back, cheaper, decent gas shocks on the front.
Lower it by 30mm all round, get wheel alignment done - not just tracking,
you want camber, castor, everything. Camber is adjustable on the front of
the Mk2, and you *will* knock it out when you change the front shockers.
You don't need adjustable shocks on the back, the Bilsteins will do the job
nicely as they've got decent ride quality until you start giving it some
major beans. On the front, almost any decent shocker will do. If you go mad
with Konis all round for example, you start losing ride quality - and if
they're adjusted incorrectly, traction.
Make sure the top mounts are in tip-top condition before you get it all
alignedl. If you've got any dodgy tyres, change them at the same time,
replace any worn ball joints or bushes while you're at it.
If you want the steering to be slightly sharper, but at the expense of a
touch more front tyre wear and a very slight loss of straight line traction,
ask whoever does the alignment to put a touch of extra negative camber on
the front.
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I need to sort the suspension on my Golf out. Currently the options look like this: cheap Bilstein kit (Streetline IIRC, Bilstein shocks and Eibach springs, 35/40mm drop) cheap Boge kit (40mm drop again) VW spec springs (do springs age other than sagging?) and Bilstein dampers More expensive options would be the next Bilsteins up the range, Gaz and Koni kits, but that's £300 instead of £180. Tyres and wheels look like being G60 winter wheels (15inch x 6, ET35, and 195/50 tyres to keep the radius the same). Polybushes could also be on the agenda. I'm not bothered about a drop unless it's going to give better handling on B roads, rather than tracks. I want to get over speedhumps. The 8V is already dropped 10mm from a standard Golf, and I suspect the springs will have sagged a bit over 114k, so I doubt the drop is going to be much more than 20mm on a 40mm drop kit. What do you reckon? my old valver had the bilsteins/eibach combo from german and swedish. i |
knock-your-fillings-out hard...
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