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Default Re: New Golf 1.6 FSI Mini Review. - 01-25-2007 , 04:54 AM







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SWMBO has had a 60bhp Seat Ibiza for about 5 years now. It redfines
slow.
Strangely though, we have never felt the inclination to get rid of it.

We have acouple of Bitzer 1.4 75bhp's and to be honest their not slow at
all! Easily keep up with yer common-or-garden Focus 1.6's.

Amazing how the same engine can have split personalities...

Tim..

Er, but the 1.6 focus IS slow. Painfully so.
Indeed!

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Default Re: New Golf 1.6 FSI Mini Review. - 01-26-2007 , 09:27 AM






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Tim.. wrote:
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SWMBO has had a 60bhp Seat Ibiza for about 5 years now. It redfines
slow.
Strangely though, we have never felt the inclination to get rid of it.

We have acouple of Bitzer 1.4 75bhp's and to be honest their not slow at
all! Easily keep up with yer common-or-garden Focus 1.6's.

Amazing how the same engine can have split personalities...

Tim..

Er, but the 1.6 focus IS slow. Painfully so.

Indeed!

Well it's hampered by overly tall gearing, innit?

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Default Re: New Golf 1.6 FSI Mini Review. - 01-26-2007 , 09:28 AM



"Geoff" <geoff (AT) DELETEanoraks (DOT) uk.net> wrote

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SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000:

??>> Slow.

S> The 'plus' version is even worse.

And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza !

I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the Impreza, so
I
put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank, returned
it
on fumes.
This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument
electronics say different things...

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Same other then the lack of performance is was quite a nice car,
for a poverty spec model.


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Default Re: New Golf 1.6 FSI Mini Review. - 01-26-2007 , 09:54 AM



In article <45ba10ca$0$27102$db0fefd9 (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk>,
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SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000:

??>> Slow.

S> The 'plus' version is even worse.

And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza !

I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the Impreza, so
I
put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank, returned
it
on fumes.

This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument
electronics say different things...
A tenners worth of fuel varies in volume depending on what type of tank
it's in ?

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Default Re: New Golf 1.6 FSI Mini Review. - 01-26-2007 , 09:59 AM



"Geoff" <grt (AT) anoraks (DOT) uk.DELETE.net> wrote

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"DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

"Geoff" <geoff (AT) DELETEanoraks (DOT) uk.net> wrote in message
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SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000:

??>> Slow.

S> The 'plus' version is even worse.

And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza !

I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the Impreza,
so
I
put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank,
returned
it
on fumes.

This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument
electronics say different things...

A tenners worth of fuel varies in volume depending on what type of tank
it's in ?

No, the needle position varies according the the tank its relative to.

Surely you've experienced a car that show full for the first hundred miles
or so, then rapidly drop to the half way point, then dribble down until they
reach the quarter, then hang around here for a bit before descending to
empty inside twenty miles or so? As an example.

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Iridium
 
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Default Re: New Golf 1.6 FSI Mini Review. - 01-26-2007 , 10:04 AM



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"DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

"Geoff" <geoff (AT) DELETEanoraks (DOT) uk.net> wrote in message
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SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000:

??>> Slow.

S> The 'plus' version is even worse.

And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza !

I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the
Impreza, so
I
put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank,
returned
it
on fumes.

This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument
electronics say different things...

A tenners worth of fuel varies in volume depending on what type of tank
it's in ?


No, the needle position varies according the the tank its relative to.

Surely you've experienced a car that show full for the first hundred miles
or so, then rapidly drop to the half way point, then dribble down until
they reach the quarter, then hang around here for a bit before descending
to empty inside twenty miles or so? As an example.

The 405 used to do that. The 206 seems to go down fast at first then slow
down, but it's fairly constant.

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Default Re: New Golf 1.6 FSI Mini Review. - 01-26-2007 , 10:05 AM



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"Geoff" <grt (AT) anoraks (DOT) uk.DELETE.net> wrote in message
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In article <45ba10ca$0$27102$db0fefd9 (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk>,
"DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

"Geoff" <geoff (AT) DELETEanoraks (DOT) uk.net> wrote in message
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SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000:

??>> Slow.

S> The 'plus' version is even worse.

And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza !

I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the
Impreza, so
I
put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank,
returned
it
on fumes.

This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument
electronics say different things...

A tenners worth of fuel varies in volume depending on what type of tank
it's in ?


No, the needle position varies according the the tank its relative to.

Surely you've experienced a car that show full for the first hundred
miles or so, then rapidly drop to the half way point, then dribble down
until they reach the quarter, then hang around here for a bit before
descending to empty inside twenty miles or so? As an example.

The 405 used to do that.
The above is a consistent trend amongst many cars. My Mondeo did it, the
Xantia TD at the Norwich fleet did it, my Ka did it, the Accord too (except
it sat above full for the first hundred miles heh)...

Quote:
The 206 seems to go down fast at first then slow down, but it's fairly
constant.
Later stuff appears to be more accurate, but it depends. Many cars'
instruments merely show you what the electronics think you want to know.
Coolant gauges these days merely tell you if the engine is cold, warming up,
normal, starting to get too warm or overheating - they're essentially six
position dials. Proper gauges showed you the temperature...

It's going to be the same with fuel. "Full." "Half way there." "Think
about stopping for fuel." "Stop now."



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Default Re: New Golf 1.6 FSI Mini Review. - 01-26-2007 , 10:11 AM



DervMan wrote:
Quote:
SWMBO has had a 60bhp Seat Ibiza for about 5 years now. It redfines
slow.
Strangely though, we have never felt the inclination to get rid of it.
We have acouple of Bitzer 1.4 75bhp's and to be honest their not slow at
all! Easily keep up with yer common-or-garden Focus 1.6's.

Amazing how the same engine can have split personalities...

Tim..
Er, but the 1.6 focus IS slow. Painfully so.
Indeed!


Well it's hampered by overly tall gearing, innit?
Not really - I mean, the gear spacing is such that you can keep it on
the boil ok, it's more hampered by the fact that it's woefully
underpowered


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Iridium
 
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Default Re: New Golf 1.6 FSI Mini Review. - 01-26-2007 , 10:11 AM




"DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Later stuff appears to be more accurate, but it depends. Many cars'
instruments merely show you what the electronics think you want to know.
Coolant gauges these days merely tell you if the engine is cold, warming
up, normal, starting to get too warm or overheating - they're essentially
six position dials. Proper gauges showed you the temperature...
IIRC mine has numbers on if that helps heh. It's not one I ever look at for
a great deal of time TBH heh.

Quote:
It's going to be the same with fuel. "Full." "Half way there." "Think
about stopping for fuel." "Stop now."



The trip computer tells me all those things :-)

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Geoff
 
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Default Re: New Golf 1.6 FSI Mini Review. - 01-26-2007 , 12:01 PM



In article <45ba17e7$0$32021$fa0fcedb (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk>,
"DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
"Geoff" <grt (AT) anoraks (DOT) uk.DELETE.net> wrote in message
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In article <45ba10ca$0$27102$db0fefd9 (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk>,
"DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

"Geoff" <geoff (AT) DELETEanoraks (DOT) uk.net> wrote in message
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SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000:

??>> Slow.

S> The 'plus' version is even worse.

And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza !

I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the Impreza,
so
I
put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank,
returned
it
on fumes.

This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument
electronics say different things...

A tenners worth of fuel varies in volume depending on what type of tank
it's in ?


No, the needle position varies according the the tank its relative to.
True.

Quote:
Surely you've experienced a car that show full for the first hundred miles
or so, then rapidly drop to the half way point, then dribble down until they
reach the quarter, then hang around here for a bit before descending to
empty inside twenty miles or so? As an example.

Yes but I am talking about the same tank and gauge, I collect car,
the*gauge reads a*quarter of a tank, I put in a tenner as that*usually
does the round trip to work, when I return the car the*gauge is off the
bottom of the scale, that tells me that it has used more then
the*tenner's*worth of fuel.

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www.anoraks.uk.net


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