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Tim.. wrote: "Bob Sherunckle" <zilspeed (AT) beeteeopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in message news:6Kadndrcl4mAEivYnZ2dnUVZ8qeknZ2d (AT) bt (DOT) com... SWMBO has had a 60bhp Seat Ibiza for about 5 years now. It redfines slow. Strangely though, we have never felt the inclination to get rid of it. We have acouple of Bitzer 1.4 75bhp's and to be honest their not slow at all! Easily keep up with yer common-or-garden Focus 1.6's. Amazing how the same engine can have split personalities... Tim.. Er, but the 1.6 focus IS slow. Painfully so. ![]() |
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"Albert T Cone" <mmmm (AT) pie (DOT) com> wrote in message news:51oqgdF1l2nsbU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net... Tim.. wrote: "Bob Sherunckle" <zilspeed (AT) beeteeopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in message news:6Kadndrcl4mAEivYnZ2dnUVZ8qeknZ2d (AT) bt (DOT) com... SWMBO has had a 60bhp Seat Ibiza for about 5 years now. It redfines slow. Strangely though, we have never felt the inclination to get rid of it. We have acouple of Bitzer 1.4 75bhp's and to be honest their not slow at all! Easily keep up with yer common-or-garden Focus 1.6's. Amazing how the same engine can have split personalities... Tim.. Er, but the 1.6 focus IS slow. Painfully so. ![]() Indeed! |
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SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000: ??>> Slow. S> The 'plus' version is even worse. And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza ! I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the Impreza, so I put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank, returned it on fumes. |
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Same other then the lack of performance is was quite a nice car, for a poverty spec model. |
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"Geoff" <geoff (AT) DELETEanoraks (DOT) uk.net> wrote in message news:OHHth.134105$MO2.99673 (AT) fe3 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000: ??>> Slow. S> The 'plus' version is even worse. And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza ! I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the Impreza, so I put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank, returned it on fumes. This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument electronics say different things... |
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In article <45ba10ca$0$27102$db0fefd9 (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk>, "DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: "Geoff" <geoff (AT) DELETEanoraks (DOT) uk.net> wrote in message news:OHHth.134105$MO2.99673 (AT) fe3 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000: ??>> Slow. S> The 'plus' version is even worse. And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza ! I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the Impreza, so I put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank, returned it on fumes. This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument electronics say different things... A tenners worth of fuel varies in volume depending on what type of tank it's in ? |
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"Geoff" <grt (AT) anoraks (DOT) uk.DELETE.net> wrote in message news:grt-5E9804.14545326012007 (AT) news (DOT) news.demon.net... In article <45ba10ca$0$27102$db0fefd9 (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk>, "DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: "Geoff" <geoff (AT) DELETEanoraks (DOT) uk.net> wrote in message news:OHHth.134105$MO2.99673 (AT) fe3 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000: ??>> Slow. S> The 'plus' version is even worse. And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza ! I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the Impreza, so I put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank, returned it on fumes. This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument electronics say different things... A tenners worth of fuel varies in volume depending on what type of tank it's in ? No, the needle position varies according the the tank its relative to. Surely you've experienced a car that show full for the first hundred miles or so, then rapidly drop to the half way point, then dribble down until they reach the quarter, then hang around here for a bit before descending to empty inside twenty miles or so? As an example. |
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"DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:45ba17e7$0$32021$fa0fcedb (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk... "Geoff" <grt (AT) anoraks (DOT) uk.DELETE.net> wrote in message news:grt-5E9804.14545326012007 (AT) news (DOT) news.demon.net... In article <45ba10ca$0$27102$db0fefd9 (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk>, "DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: "Geoff" <geoff (AT) DELETEanoraks (DOT) uk.net> wrote in message news:OHHth.134105$MO2.99673 (AT) fe3 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000: ??>> Slow. S> The 'plus' version is even worse. And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza ! I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the Impreza, so I put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank, returned it on fumes. This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument electronics say different things... A tenners worth of fuel varies in volume depending on what type of tank it's in ? No, the needle position varies according the the tank its relative to. Surely you've experienced a car that show full for the first hundred miles or so, then rapidly drop to the half way point, then dribble down until they reach the quarter, then hang around here for a bit before descending to empty inside twenty miles or so? As an example. The 405 used to do that. |
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The 206 seems to go down fast at first then slow down, but it's fairly constant. |

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SWMBO has had a 60bhp Seat Ibiza for about 5 years now. It redfines slow. Strangely though, we have never felt the inclination to get rid of it. We have acouple of Bitzer 1.4 75bhp's and to be honest their not slow at all! Easily keep up with yer common-or-garden Focus 1.6's. Amazing how the same engine can have split personalities... Tim.. Er, but the 1.6 focus IS slow. Painfully so. ![]() Indeed! Well it's hampered by overly tall gearing, innit? |

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Later stuff appears to be more accurate, but it depends. Many cars' instruments merely show you what the electronics think you want to know. Coolant gauges these days merely tell you if the engine is cold, warming up, normal, starting to get too warm or overheating - they're essentially six position dials. Proper gauges showed you the temperature... |
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It's going to be the same with fuel. "Full." "Half way there." "Think about stopping for fuel." "Stop now." ![]() |
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"Geoff" <grt (AT) anoraks (DOT) uk.DELETE.net> wrote in message news:grt-5E9804.14545326012007 (AT) news (DOT) news.demon.net... In article <45ba10ca$0$27102$db0fefd9 (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk>, "DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: "Geoff" <geoff (AT) DELETEanoraks (DOT) uk.net> wrote in message news:OHHth.134105$MO2.99673 (AT) fe3 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk... SteveH wrote on Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:44:49 +0000: ??>> Slow. S> The 'plus' version is even worse. And it was worse on petrol them my old Impreza ! I used to use a tenners worth for a return trip to work in the Impreza, so I put a tenner in the Golf even tho it was on a quarter of a tank, returned it on fumes. This tells us nothing because different fuel tanks and instrument electronics say different things... A tenners worth of fuel varies in volume depending on what type of tank it's in ? No, the needle position varies according the the tank its relative to. |
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Surely you've experienced a car that show full for the first hundred miles or so, then rapidly drop to the half way point, then dribble down until they reach the quarter, then hang around here for a bit before descending to empty inside twenty miles or so? As an example. |
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