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Default Re: Nitrous(N20) / Nitrox(EANx) - 05-10-2004 , 01:24 PM








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Default Re: Nitrous(N20) / Nitrox(EANx) - 05-10-2004 , 01:39 PM








"Jezza" <jeremygill (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Now here's a thought.

There's a lot made about fitting Nitrous Kits to cars to boost the
performance. The idea behind it being (apologies if I'm wrong) the
added gas, Nitrous Oxide (N20), and the higher O2 contect in the air
(36%) when mixed with the correct fuel, gives more power. Plus the
cooling effect of the pressurised air stops the engine from cooking
itself.
And the fact that it goes into your engine as a very dense almost completely
still liquid means that it does not displace much (if any due to the
temperature drop) of the original airflow. And because it has much nitrogen
still to absorb the heat produced and prevent instant detonation and allow
controlled expansion instead.


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Now how about instead of using Nitrox oxide we use Oxygen Enriched
Air, (EANx or Nitrox, as used by scuba-divers). Would it work?
No because...
To begin with it would be the same as adding oxygen to your motor.
It causes HORRENDOUS detonation, even in small amounts (been there! honda
50!) because it already has the free oxygen available. The free oxygen in
Nitrous Oxide is unavailable untill early in the combustion proces when
there is enough heat to free it. Its not a mixture but a compound.

And...
You HAVE to use liquid!
Compressed air (even with extra oxygen) at say 3000 psi as divers use takes
up the space in the inlet tract that would be normal air! So any power
increase would be minimal anyway, as you just effectively removed the
original intake system...

And the charge cooling from the latent heat of evaporation causes a
contaction of the normal (warm) air in the intake system.
This actually increases the normal airflow through the carb/throttle body up
to say 50 percent extra power increase.

And you cannot compress air into a liquid...
And...
And...

www.nitrous.info ...


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would certainly be cheaper (15Litre 36% O2 approx £5) and availablilty
would be far better (just go to your local dive shop!).
Since its MUCH les dense (IE far from being a liquid) its actually more
expensive...


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Now I need someone to calculate if it'll work. Here's what I think I
know so far.
I know it wont!


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N2O is a combined particle, 2 molecules nitrogen to 1 Oxygen.
EANx is a combination of N2 plus O2. That is the molecules are bonded
differently.
Ist a mixture of O2 because oxygen likes to combine with something! O1 turns
itself into O2 quickly... O3 (ozone) soon also turns to O2...

And N2

Not a coumpound so the oxygen is available for causing detonation!


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Default Re: Nitrous(N20) / Nitrox(EANx) - 05-10-2004 , 02:08 PM




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"MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Default Re: Nitrous(N20) / Nitrox(EANx) - 05-10-2004 , 02:35 PM





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"MeatballTurbo" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b09a0695252be69989e0a (AT) news (DOT) individual.net...
In article <d16e1193.0405100601.462bf959 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>,
jeremygill (AT) hotmail (DOT) com spouted forth into uk.rec.cars.modifications...
Anyone able to take it from here?

Byrgerman, where are you wehn we need you.


Laughing!

That's something else it's good for (so I've heard)

No that only happens because of oxygen starvation. Don't try it!




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