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Default Re: Not a bad weekend in all. - 05-07-2007 , 04:06 PM






In article <f1o1n4$3bv$1 (AT) registered (DOT) motzarella.org>, mrdoki (AT) gmail (DOT) com
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Aye, but if they're as bad as Pete reckons, measuring temp gradient is a
fairly decent way of working out when it's low - same as a gas bottle used
to run owt, the bottom half with the liquid gas in gets cold due to yer
basic thermodynamics / gas laws. When the cold bit's a long way down the
tank it's pretty safe to assume it's nearly empty.

Ah, but I have two smaller tanks.
But you only need to feed a gauge from one, as they are supposed to feed
roughly equally, and at the same time, hence why it is so innacurate.

Even though the tanks are T-d for feed to the engine, and for the
filler, you can feel the difference when filling. There is a clunk when
one tank fills at about £10-12, but then the second tank carries on
taking gas upto another £6 (when running part-time gas. On full time,
both tanks will empty almost fully but I'll switch over as they do).
Normally the clunk/judder is the safety valve saying "no more, enough".
Of course with 2 tanks, it will happen twice.
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Default Re: Not a bad weekend in all. - 05-07-2007 , 04:08 PM






In article <5a9eb3F2n1h2oU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, cagmeister (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk
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Fecking French pieces of crap. I knew taking on a free 205 was gonna cause
trouble!!

It will be something or nothing. Usually is, throw some garlic and a
baquette under the bonnet, make it feel loved.

Don't suppose you have a spare glow plug or two to test do you?
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Default Re: Not a bad weekend in all. - 05-07-2007 , 04:10 PM



In article <463f8f03$0$8742$ed2619ec (AT) ptn-nntp-reader02 (DOT) plus.net>,
"Depresion" <127.0.0.1> says...
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"Elder" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20a95d91b6712eed1492 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net...
Got the rangie idling nice on LPG.

Got a stable idle for it? Every Rangie I have seen on LPG hunts from 800-1k
when on gas.



This is spot on, arround 6-700.
When in drive, it sits at a clean 500, even more controllable than on
petrol. luckily petrol is just going to be for starting when cold these
days. I'll maybe stick a couple of quid in every now and again to stop
it going stale.

Not going to mess with much now, just sort out a gauge as and when, no
rush. Nothing is broken, so I'm not going to break it.
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Default Re: Not a bad weekend in all. - 05-07-2007 , 04:13 PM




"Elder" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote

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In article <5a9eb3F2n1h2oU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, cagmeister (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk
says...
Fecking French pieces of crap. I knew taking on a free 205 was gonna
cause
trouble!!

It will be something or nothing. Usually is, throw some garlic and a
baquette under the bonnet, make it feel loved.

Don't suppose you have a spare glow plug or two to test do you?
--
Took the two easy ones out - one was 1.7 ohms (knackered) the other 0.9 ohms
(ok). I know they're getting ona bit, but they've worked ok for the last
few weeks. If I can get a lift to GSF tomorrow I'll get 4 new plugs and the
relay box and will just hope that cures it.




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Default Re: Not a bad weekend in all. - 05-08-2007 , 06:47 AM



On 7 May, 22:10, Elder <carl.rob... (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote:

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Luckily petrol is just going to be for starting when cold these
days.
Why do you have to do that? Them pick-ups I drove in Canada were
propane only. Started first time no matter what.



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Default Re: Not a bad weekend in all. - 05-08-2007 , 11:34 AM



In news:1178624864.904185.216340 (AT) w5g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com,
conkersack (AT) googlemail (DOT) com <conkersack (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wittered on forthwith;
Quote:
On 7 May, 22:10, Elder <carl.rob... (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote:

Luckily petrol is just going to be for starting when cold these
days.

Why do you have to do that? Them pick-ups I drove in Canada were
propane only. Started first time no matter what.
some LPG vehicles will start on gas alone, but most need to be started on
petrol then they'll flick over automatically at around 1500 rpm. It's a good
idea to use petrol for the first 5-10 mins from cold just because it helps
to lubricate valve guides etc. LPG doesn't.


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Default Re: Not a bad weekend in all. - 05-08-2007 , 12:25 PM



Doki wrote:
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It is just a resistance feed, so I just need to see what full is, get a
gauge with that as the full measure.
Normally they tend to follow several standards, 0-90 Ohm, 80-240 Ohm
etc.
Just need to get a decent multimeter that can measure below 100 Ohms
(just in case) and I will be sorted.

Aye, but if they're as bad as Pete reckons, measuring temp gradient is a
fairly decent way of working out when it's low - same as a gas bottle
used to run owt, the bottom half with the liquid gas in gets cold due to
yer basic thermodynamics / gas laws. When the cold bit's a long way down
the tank it's pretty safe to assume it's nearly empty.
There isn't actually a temp difference under stable conditions, but it
feels like there is 'cos you have a volatile liquid which
convects/boils/whatever when you put your hand on the tank at theat
point. This extracts heat from your hand and makes it feel cold. If
you measured it with a thermometer you should find no difference*.


*there might be a slight difference whilst you are sucking LPG out, 'cos
what's left boils to fill the gap and extracts heat from the tank whilst
it does that. However, the difference will depend on how quickly you
suck the stuff out, rather than just on the level in the tank, so it's
not very deterministic.


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Default Re: Not a bad weekend in all. - 05-08-2007 , 12:26 PM




"Albert T Cone" <mmmm (AT) pie (DOT) com> wrote

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Doki wrote:
It is just a resistance feed, so I just need to see what full is, get a
gauge with that as the full measure.
Normally they tend to follow several standards, 0-90 Ohm, 80-240 Ohm
etc.
Just need to get a decent multimeter that can measure below 100 Ohms
(just in case) and I will be sorted.

Aye, but if they're as bad as Pete reckons, measuring temp gradient is a
fairly decent way of working out when it's low - same as a gas bottle
used to run owt, the bottom half with the liquid gas in gets cold due to
yer basic thermodynamics / gas laws. When the cold bit's a long way down
the tank it's pretty safe to assume it's nearly empty.

There isn't actually a temp difference under stable conditions, but it
feels like there is 'cos you have a volatile liquid which
convects/boils/whatever when you put your hand on the tank at theat point.
This extracts heat from your hand and makes it feel cold. If you
measured it with a thermometer you should find no difference*.


*there might be a slight difference whilst you are sucking LPG out, 'cos
what's left boils to fill the gap and extracts heat from the tank whilst
it does that. However, the difference will depend on how quickly you suck
the stuff out, rather than just on the level in the tank, so it's not very
deterministic.
That was what I was thinking of - the difference you actually get and can be
seen by condensation / ice when the tank's being used. Depends on the rate
you use it at I suppose - I can get a decent amount of condensation on a gas
tank that's running my heater, but that's probably using rather more than
the average car.



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Default Re: Not a bad weekend in all. - 05-08-2007 , 04:43 PM



In article <1178624864.904185.216340 (AT) w5g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
conkersack (AT) googlemail (DOT) com says...
Quote:
On 7 May, 22:10, Elder <carl.rob... (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote:

Luckily petrol is just going to be for starting when cold these
days.

Why do you have to do that? Them pick-ups I drove in Canada were
propane only. Started first time no matter what.


Tried getting it to fire on gas, and couldn't get it to, even when warm.
No worries switching to petrol for the first 5 minutes though.
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Default Re: Not a bad weekend in all. - 05-09-2007 , 08:00 AM



Elder wrote:

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Got the cheap VR3 headunit I fitted to accept the bluetooth connection
from my phone. Works great for £100 and I can play tunes from my phone
memory card through Bluetooth through the speakers.
Nooo, Makro are doing the Sony BT-2500 at the moment for £99+VAT and
similar prices on the 'net

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