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Re: New car suggestions -
02-16-2004
, 05:42 AM
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"Jamesy" <beats (AT) rootmeanSORRYSPAMSOFFsquared (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:734a202fa4491eaa7e7cb83bb29f862f (AT) news (DOT) teranews.com... snip Yep - all old cars are spectacularly unsafe in comparison with their modern counterparts. It's only the last few years that schemes like NCAP have been taken seriously. One more reason to discount old cars then  *cough* except Volvos *cough* What about some of the old Saabs with built in roll cages? They were incredibly strong... |
Crumple-zones are what save your life - if the car is totally rigid, you're
screwed
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What about some of the old Saabs with built in roll cages? They were incredibly strong... ...so you totally die in any impact ! Crumple-zones are what save your life - if the car is totally rigid, you're screwed |
some extent in a crash.
F1 cars are mega strong, but rediculously safe compared to road cars because
head on, they deform at a rate where the human body can still survive, its
something like 30g over a fraction of a second (I'm not exactly sure).
Pretty impressive when they can easily be travelling at over 150mph. I'll
bet good money it beats the shit out of a 600Ti (c:, or indeed pretty much
anything on the public road.
Daresay you'd need a proper harness and some sort of neck protection like
the F1 dudes use to have much chance of surviving that kind of impact
though.
Douglas
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"Nom" <Nom (AT) Somewhere (DOT) Somewhere> wrote in message news:c0q6p5029du (AT) enews4 (DOT) newsguy.com... What about some of the old Saabs with built in roll cages? They were incredibly strong... ...so you totally die in any impact ! Crumple-zones are what save your life - if the car is totally rigid, you're screwed I think you'd find it pretty hard to build a rollcage that didnt deform to some extent in a crash. F1 cars are mega strong, but rediculously safe compared to road cars because head on, they deform at a rate where the human body can still survive, its something like 30g over a fraction of a second (I'm not exactly sure). Pretty impressive when they can easily be travelling at over 150mph. I'll bet good money it beats the shit out of a 600Ti (c:, or indeed pretty much anything on the public road. |
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Daresay you'd need a proper harness and some sort of neck protection like the F1 dudes use to have much chance of surviving that kind of impact though. |
WRC cars are very rigid (compared to a road car at least), but the drivers
are stuck in with a four point harness, and wearing a helment and stuff. If
you tried the same with a normal car seatbelt, you'd, er, die.
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Douglas Payne wrote: "Nom" <Nom (AT) Somewhere (DOT) Somewhere> wrote in message news:c0q6p5029du (AT) enews4 (DOT) newsguy.com... What about some of the old Saabs with built in roll cages? They were incredibly strong... ...so you totally die in any impact ! Crumple-zones are what save your life - if the car is totally rigid, you're screwed I think you'd find it pretty hard to build a rollcage that didnt deform to some extent in a crash. F1 cars are mega strong, but rediculously safe compared to road cars because head on, they deform at a rate where the human body can still survive, its something like 30g over a fraction of a second (I'm not exactly sure). Pretty impressive when they can easily be travelling at over 150mph. I'll bet good money it beats the shit out of a 600Ti (c:, or indeed pretty much anything on the public road. The next part of your post sums up nicely : Daresay you'd need a proper harness and some sort of neck protection like the F1 dudes use to have much chance of surviving that kind of impact though. Spot on. WRC cars are very rigid (compared to a road car at least), but the drivers are stuck in with a four point harness, and wearing a helment and stuff. If you tried the same with a normal car seatbelt, you'd, er, die. |
soft one if I was going to have a high speed impact. Well, a nice long soft
car at least. My Carlton probably fits the bill here, although I hope I
never find out.
Douglas
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Douglas Payne wrote: Daresay you'd need a proper harness and some sort of neck protection like the F1 dudes use to have much chance of surviving that kind of impact though. Spot on. WRC cars are very rigid (compared to a road car at least), but the drivers are stuck in with a four point harness, and wearing a helment and stuff. If you tried the same with a normal car seatbelt, you'd, er, die. |
rocket sleds in the 50s / 60s? A bloke worked out you can survive absolutely
massive G forces as long as you're strapped in tightly and they don't go on
for very long. With a 3 point seatbelt you've got plenty of room to flap
about and die, and the car isn't rigid enough to slow you down that quickly.
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Anyone remember the documentary about the Americans experimenting with rocket sleds in the 50s / 60s? A bloke worked out you can survive absolutely massive G forces as long as you're strapped in tightly and they don't go on for very long. With a 3 point seatbelt you've got plenty of room to flap about and die, and the car isn't rigid enough to slow you down that quickly. |
tightly
How would you turn the steering wheel, or press the pedals ?
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Anyone remember the documentary about the Americans experimenting with rocket sleds in the 50s / 60s? A bloke worked out you can survive absolutely massive G forces as long as you're strapped in tightly and they don't go on for very long. That's not really relevent though, cos you have to be strapped in 100% tightly How would you turn the steering wheel, or press the pedals ? |
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