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OT: v6 what's the point!
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Re: OT: v6 what's the point! -
07-15-2004
, 04:29 AM
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"Steve Firth" <usenet-urcm (AT) malloc (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:1ggxdce.ealld01fdnivfN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk.. . Johnny <repro007 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: [V6] What they are is a big heavy lump That's umm untrue. For example: Ford (USA) 4.0 V6 351 lbs (156 Kg) Ford (Aus) 4.0 straight 6 385 lbs (171 Kg) BMW M60 small 6, straight 388 lbs (172 Kg) Buick 3.0 V6 350 lbs (155 Kg) Nissan RB25DET straight 6* 720 lbs (320 Kg) Nissan 350Z V6 ? * Nissan Skyline GTR engine, those turbos must weigh heavy. ? Can't find the weight quoted anywhere yet. You fill in the blank since you obviously know it. I'll kill myself laughing if it is more than 320Kg. Actually you're wrong. The GTR runs the RB26DETT engine. The GTS-T runs the RB25DET. I seriously doubt those weights as well. Fraser |
he's right y'know.
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Paul Laidlaw <paul (AT) nospam (DOT) plaidlaw.screaming.net> wrote: V12 is the only configuration that needs no balancing IIRC. Straight six has perfect primary and secondary balance (as does a V12) V6 doesn't. Don't lots of inline 6s have a balancer shaft, though? |
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SteveH wrote: Paul Laidlaw <paul (AT) nospam (DOT) plaidlaw.screaming.net> wrote: V12 is the only configuration that needs no balancing IIRC. Straight six has perfect primary and secondary balance (as does a V12) V6 doesn't. Don't lots of inline 6s have a balancer shaft, though? cant think of any, usually V6 have balance shafts |
cunt this morning though.
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Thinking about getting a 350Z but it's got a bloody stupid big heavy V6. So what, take a look around you - there are no light cars anymore (barring kiddy toy shit like the Elise). Why don't they just put straight 6 in there and have done with it, save money and get a much better power to weight Marginally, at best. The 350Z shifts extremely well as it is. If you're worried about power, go for the supercharger package. V's are a waste of time for anything less than 8 cylinders aren't they? Not really, no. Is it just a crap marketing ploy? Maybe, V6's are just cooler than straight 6's[1]. |
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Fraser Johnston <fraser (AT) jcis (DOT) com.au> wrote: I seriously doubt those weights as well. Feel free to tel me what they should be, they are the best I could find. |
you're wrong.
Fraser
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The straight 6 has had it's day, IMHO, as it offers lots of packaging problems due to it's length with no real advantages over the straight 6. Yeah, I can't see any real advantages of a straight 6 over a straight 6. Peter |
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Fraser Johnston <fraser (AT) jcis (DOT) com.au> wrote: I couldn't be assed. But having owned one I can tell you with authority you're wrong. http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/tech/0309scc_hybrid/ "The donor car is an R33 Nissan Skyline GT-S" My mistake, I read that as GT-R for some reason. "the RB25DET weighs about 720 pounds" So until you prove otherwise, you're blowing it out of your arse. -- |
short motor? RB25DET and RB26DETT are vastly different motors.
Fraser
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In news:egrJc.3518$5g7.43503833 (AT) news-text (DOT) cableinet.net, Theo <theo*+*@*+*letsblowitup*.*com> decided to enlighten our sheltered souls with a rant as follows SteveH wrote: Paul Laidlaw <paul (AT) nospam (DOT) plaidlaw.screaming.net> wrote: V12 is the only configuration that needs no balancing IIRC. Straight six has perfect primary and secondary balance (as does a V12) V6 doesn't. Don't lots of inline 6s have a balancer shaft, though? cant think of any, usually V6 have balance shafts I can't think of any V6s with balancer shafts... maybe I'm being a thick cunt this morning though. |
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Johnny wrote: v6 what's the point! What's the point in it NOT being a V6 ? Thinking about getting a 350Z but it's got a bloody stupid big heavy V6. Er, which is no heavier than a straight-six. Infact, it's probably lighter than your average straight-six ! Why don't they just put straight 6 in there and have done with it, save money and get a much better power to weight A. Cos a straight-six is huge. B. It probably wouldn't be any cheaper. C. It probably wouldn't weigh any less. - the skyline's RB26 would have done the job surely. It's also getting very long in the tooth. Yesterday's engines in today's sports cars, isn't really the best way for Nissan to make sales against the competition  V's are a waste of time for anything less than 8 cylinders aren't they? Course not ! Is it just a crap marketing ploy? Course not ! |
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Lordy wrote: Thinking about getting a 350Z but it's got a bloody stupid big heavy V6. So what, take a look around you - there are no light cars anymore (barring kiddy toy shit like the Elise). Why don't they just put straight 6 in there and have done with it, save money and get a much better power to weight Marginally, at best. The 350Z shifts extremely well as it is. If you're worried about power, go for the supercharger package. V's are a waste of time for anything less than 8 cylinders aren't they? Not really, no. Is it just a crap marketing ploy? Maybe, V6's are just cooler than straight 6's[1]. i disagree, I prefer a straight 6, they sound better too. |
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