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Default Such a thing as to much cold air? - 08-16-2005 , 09:54 PM






I've been toying with the idea of leaveing the bumpers off my gti and
meshing the hole left behind, but as you can see:
http://www.wellcheap.com/gallery/Gol...ect/front_shot

That leaves the rad really exposed, plus under bonnet temps will, no doubt
plummet... i've also located a mocal oil cooler.

Would I be force feeding her to much air do you think? Leading to the engine
dropping below optimum operating temps? I mean while thrashing it i'm sure
it will be ok, but during the winter I forsee it could be a bit of a
problem.

I suppose i will have to run it and see how she copes when I stick it all
back together, and if it does struggle I have a couple of smaller mk2 rads I
can try.



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Default Re: Such a thing as to much cold air? - 08-17-2005 , 03:51 AM






In article <ddu8sj$3i3$1 (AT) news7 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>, suk (AT) itspambot (DOT) com says...
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Would I be force feeding her to much air do you think? Leading to the engine
dropping below optimum operating temps? I mean while thrashing it i'm sure
it will be ok, but during the winter I forsee it could be a bit of a
problem.

No such thing as too cold intake air.
If the stat controls engine temps, so if the enging starts to run cold,
fit a stat from a car intended for a colder temp, they open at higher
running temps to keep the car running better. Or fit a higher triggered
fan temp switch and a decent coolant temp gauge if you don't want to
mess with the stat opening temp. If you amke changes monitor it.
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Default Re: Such a thing as to much cold air? - 08-17-2005 , 07:45 AM




"REMUS" <suk (AT) itspambot (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I've been toying with the idea of leaveing the bumpers off my gti and
meshing the hole left behind, but as you can see:
http://www.wellcheap.com/gallery/Gol...ect/front_shot

That leaves the rad really exposed, plus under bonnet temps will, no doubt
plummet... i've also located a mocal oil cooler.

Would I be force feeding her to much air do you think? Leading to the
engine dropping below optimum operating temps? I mean while thrashing it
i'm sure it will be ok, but during the winter I forsee it could be a bit
of a problem.

I suppose i will have to run it and see how she copes when I stick it all
back together, and if it does struggle I have a couple of smaller mk2 rads
I can try.

sweet idea! i think it'll affect aero dynamics more than anything myself but
then the glof is about as aero dynamic as an old volvo
i think it'll be fine myself but as sleeker says best monitor it!

if you wanna change the temp you could fit a scoop and stick a fan
underneath? the MR2 is slightly different but a few people have engine lid
fans fitted, i hate the noise they make but there pretty light and can bring
the temp down by as much as 10 degree's!

http://www.revision6.com/forms/Product.aspx?ID=313




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Default Re: Such a thing as to much cold air? - 08-17-2005 , 09:05 AM



Surely it'd be better not to block off the vents like that and replace
them with fans, rather just have the fans as an addition to the vents.

Rogue are really doing well for themselves though, good on them.


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Default Re: Such a thing as to much cold air? - 08-17-2005 , 10:02 AM




"fishman" <SPAMMEIFYOULIKEBUTIWONTREADIT (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Surely it'd be better not to block off the vents like that and replace
them with fans, rather just have the fans as an addition to the vents.

Rogue are really doing well for themselves though, good on them.

ermm the fans are underneath the vents? i dunno what you mean? lol

you can see better in this pic
http://www.revision6.com/forms/Product.aspx?ID=312




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Default Re: Such a thing as to much cold air? - 08-17-2005 , 10:08 AM




"fishman" <SPAMMEIFYOULIKEBUTIWONTREADIT (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Surely it'd be better not to block off the vents like that and replace
them with fans, rather just have the fans as an addition to the vents.

Rogue are really doing well for themselves though, good on them.

yeah there doing some good shit, well helpful people too!




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Default Re: Such a thing as to much cold air? - 08-17-2005 , 12:48 PM



Quote:
sweet idea! i think it'll affect aero dynamics more than anything myself
but then the glof is about as aero dynamic as an old volvo
i think it'll be fine myself but as sleeker says best monitor it!
Might suprise yout o know that a mk2 golf has a drag coefficency rateing of
0.34, but you do raise a valid point

Quote:
if you wanna change the temp you could fit a scoop and stick a fan
underneath? the MR2 is slightly different but a few people have engine lid
fans fitted, i hate the noise they make but there pretty light and can
bring the temp down by as much as 10 degree's!

http://www.revision6.com/forms/Product.aspx?ID=313
I might louver the bonnet if I can find a place that does it for a
reasonable price, or go for carbon/fibre glass since they are alot cheaper
than i intially thought... but its pie in the sky atm.




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Default Re: Such a thing as to much cold air? - 08-17-2005 , 03:10 PM



"REMUS" <suk (AT) itspambot (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I've been toying with the idea of leaveing the bumpers off my gti and
meshing the hole left behind, but as you can see:
http://www.wellcheap.com/gallery/Gol...ect/front_shot

That leaves the rad really exposed, plus under bonnet temps will, no doubt
plummet... i've also located a mocal oil cooler.

Would I be force feeding her to much air do you think? Leading to the
engine dropping below optimum operating temps? I mean while thrashing it
i'm sure it will be ok, but during the winter I forsee it could be a bit
of a problem.
It shouldn't providing your thermostat works.

Quote:
I suppose i will have to run it and see how she copes when I stick it all
back together, and if it does struggle I have a couple of smaller mk2 rads
I can try.
Your heater takes a lot of heat from the cooling system if you run the
interior ventilation fan at a high speed...

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www.dervman.com




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Default Re: Such a thing as to much cold air? - 08-17-2005 , 03:12 PM



"REMUS" <suk (AT) itspambot (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
sweet idea! i think it'll affect aero dynamics more than anything myself
but then the glof is about as aero dynamic as an old volvo
i think it'll be fine myself but as sleeker says best monitor it!

Might suprise yout o know that a mk2 golf has a drag coefficency rateing
of 0.34, but you do raise a valid point
The Cd is only part of the story. What's the frontal area?

Quote:
if you wanna change the temp you could fit a scoop and stick a fan
underneath? the MR2 is slightly different but a few people have engine
lid fans fitted, i hate the noise they make but there pretty light and
can bring the temp down by as much as 10 degree's!

http://www.revision6.com/forms/Product.aspx?ID=313

I might louver the bonnet if I can find a place that does it for a
reasonable price, or go for carbon/fibre glass since they are alot cheaper
than i intially thought... but its pie in the sky atm.
Hmmmmmm pie.

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The DervMan
www.dervman.com




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Default Re: Such a thing as to much cold air? - 08-17-2005 , 03:19 PM



"REMUS" <suk (AT) itspambot (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I've been toying with the idea of leaveing the bumpers off my gti and
meshing the hole left behind, but as you can see:
http://www.wellcheap.com/gallery/Gol...ect/front_shot

That leaves the rad really exposed, plus under bonnet temps will, no doubt
plummet... i've also located a mocal oil cooler.

Would I be force feeding her to much air do you think? Leading to the
engine dropping below optimum operating temps? I mean while thrashing it
i'm sure it will be ok, but during the winter I forsee it could be a bit
of a problem.

I suppose i will have to run it and see how she copes when I stick it all
back together, and if it does struggle I have a couple of smaller mk2 rads
I can try.
If it suffers from cold in winter, surely the traditional solution of a bit
of cardboard/plastic/foil in front of some of the rad is entirely adequate.

(not sure what Vamp's on - his solution seems to be to increase the airflow,
which would be the opposite of what you're after)

cheers,
clive




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