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Re: This week I have changed my mind... -
02-24-2007
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Sensible people buy Leons |
earhole. Our local garage is at a crossroads with entrances from the major
"A" road and the lesser "A" road crossing it. I filled up and tried to
drive out and twatty bloke in the Leon had just dumped the car at an angle
by the shop blocking the way out past the pump. So I drove around the block
of pumps onto the major A road then drove up to the lights and waited to
turn left. The bloke in the Leon came out of the shop as the lights went to
Red + Amber and jumpoed into the car, screamed across the forecourt in
cloud of tyre smoke and tried to beat all the traffic turning left by
driving across the forecourt heading for the exit to the lesser "A" road.
Just as someone turned into the same entrance.
Bang.
And strangely enough an entire forecourt full of drivers, the lass in the
shop, and the people waiting at the lights all acted as witnesses that it
was his fault.
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"Iridium" <iridiumdan (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:54b128F206vr0U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net... No I meant the EP3, not the just out one. I'd be looking for an 04 facelift model. I like the interior, looks racey. But it looks like any other Honda... |
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Obviously I'd have to find one with aircon hehe. And front fog lamps, because otherwise they look unfinished. |
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"Iridium" <iridiumdan (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:54avviF1vfp34U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net... "DervMan" <thedervman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:45e047dd$0$32031$fa0fcedb (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk... ...about the Audi A3. It's *much* nicer than the Golf equivalent, rather than "nicer." Still too expensive mind you! Sensible people buy Leons and get the best of both worlds  People with driving gloves, nodding hippies and a range of sunglasses drive Seats. I've toyed with the idea of a Cupra R for my next car :-) But think I prefer the Civic Type R to be honest. CTR FTW. >-) FTW? I've never driven a Cupra R - I've driven my mates CTR a few times, and it's a magnificent piece of kit, the engine is simply a piece of mechanical art. Actually I don't think you're doing them justice. Well they're the best words I could think of :-) The closest I've driven to a Cupra R is a 150bhp Golf 1.8T, which when driven hard back to back with my 206, barely felt any quicker than the 206. Almost certainly because the Golf 1.8T is barely quicker.  It was smoother, and when driven at 6/10ths was easier to go briskly - but not a great deal. Yes. I like VAG's 1.8T, but it isn't a GTI engine in 150 PS guise. Having said that, it only 40bhp on me, combined with about 300/400kgs so I suppose that's to be expected. More to the point it's also a mark four Golf, which is inert. |
drive as a Focus Mk1.
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Driving the mark two or five Golf GTI, I'm still amazed at how wrong the mark three and four Golfs were. |
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I've also considered R32s, but they're too much coin, and 147 GTAs but I don't think I dare. Are these not too fast for navigation rallies? They look cool as though. I see a 147 GTA and think, "he's a local" because nobody would take one beyond twenty minutes of home or a dealership, surely? :-) |
and it was reliable. I suspect the constant tyre replacements on a 147 would
be enough to put me off.
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And an S2000 if my back will let me after more surgery in a month or so. Heh. But the engine is sublime. With my SteveH "only-buy-what-I-drive" hat on, what you want is a Saab Viggen. Cheap, 2.3 230 bhp and pokey. Who cares that it's front wheel drive, it's still a devestatingly quick cross country machine. No they're big, and bargey and ugly, and don't Saabs handle like crap? |
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They're not big, ugly, hmm - the look has grown on me. As far as handling like crap goes, aie yes until you brace them up. Their biggest issue is putting the power down. |
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Have you already dismissed the 2.0 turbo Astra? Well, my mate has a 53 plate GSi Turbo, his brother has one of those limited edition SRi 190 turbos, like a 52 or summet another has a Y plate Coupe turbo - so I've dismissed it on that basis heh. Also, the interior isn't very nice. Well it's dull. But the car itself looks okay. Besides have you *seen* the interior of the Civic Type R? Okay, it's a little tarted up... but... c'mon? |
anything more positive than that about a Vauxhall).
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The New Civic is something else... unless that's what you meant? |
week and it felt like I was driving a posh NHS waiting room. All plastic and
no imagination. The leather had no character, the switches were all
ridiculously huge and tacky, the radio was pants and the centre console
looked almost as tacky as the one in the B6 Passat.
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Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force -
Golf GTi,
Mercedes 190E Auto
OMF#9
Ok, I admit it, I like Renault 5s.
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In article <HNWDh.18213$j7.362914 (AT) news (DOT) indigo.ie>, usenet@retro- renault.com says... DervMan wrote: ...about the Audi A3. It's *much* nicer than the Golf equivalent, rather than "nicer." Still too expensive mind you! Sensible people buy Leons and get the best of both worlds People with driving gloves, nodding hippies and a range of sunglasses drive Seats. |
but crap.
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Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force -
Golf GTi,
Mercedes 190E Auto
OMF#9
Ok, I admit it, I like Renault 5s.
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FTW? I've never driven a Cupra R - I've driven my mates CTR a few times, and it's a magnificent piece of kit, the engine is simply a piece of mechanical art. Actually I don't think you're doing them justice. Well they're the best words I could think of :-) The closest I've driven to a Cupra R is a 150bhp Golf 1.8T, which when driven hard back to back with my 206, barely felt any quicker than the 206. Almost certainly because the Golf 1.8T is barely quicker. It was smoother, and when driven at 6/10ths was easier to go briskly - but not a great deal. Yes. I like VAG's 1.8T, but it isn't a GTI engine in 150 PS guise. Having said that, it only 40bhp on me, combined with about 300/400kgs so I suppose that's to be expected. More to the point it's also a mark four Golf, which is inert. The Leon drives much better than the Golf though, it's almost as nice to drive as a Focus Mk1. |
so much.
I couldn't find a Leon TDI in the right specification or colour for love nor
money when wanting to change the Honda.
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Driving the mark two or five Golf GTI, I'm still amazed at how wrong the mark three and four Golfs were. I think the Mk5 Golf is only a slight improvement on the Mk4, tbh. |
Now the current Passat compared to the previous one, they're closer.
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I've also considered R32s, but they're too much coin, and 147 GTAs but I don't think I dare. Are these not too fast for navigation rallies? They look cool as though. I see a 147 GTA and think, "he's a local" because nobody would take one beyond twenty minutes of home or a dealership, surely? :-) I would. I drove my 164 Q4 forwards and backwards to Italy a fair few times and it was reliable. I suspect the constant tyre replacements on a 147 would be enough to put me off. |
Lots of American cars have the same power over the same wheels, driving the
same wheels too...
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And an S2000 if my back will let me after more surgery in a month or so. Heh. But the engine is sublime. With my SteveH "only-buy-what-I-drive" hat on, what you want is a Saab Viggen. Cheap, 2.3 230 bhp and pokey. Who cares that it's front wheel drive, it's still a devestatingly quick cross country machine. No they're big, and bargey and ugly, and don't Saabs handle like crap? I quite like Saabs. I have a soft spot for the fast 9-5 jobs. |
get a 9-5 Aero over the 2.3 or 2.0 turbos - lower fuel consumption. :-)
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They're not big, ugly, hmm - the look has grown on me. As far as handling like crap goes, aie yes until you brace them up. Their biggest issue is putting the power down. As long as you're a gear above where you'd expect to be, they're fine. |
the 1999 9-3 Viggen from most normal cars and they're a bit, erm,
wheelspinny...
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Have you already dismissed the 2.0 turbo Astra? Well, my mate has a 53 plate GSi Turbo, his brother has one of those limited edition SRi 190 turbos, like a 52 or summet another has a Y plate Coupe turbo - so I've dismissed it on that basis heh. Also, the interior isn't very nice. Well it's dull. But the car itself looks okay. Besides have you *seen* the interior of the Civic Type R? Okay, it's a little tarted up... but... c'mon? Ashtray Turbos actually drive not badly. (I can't bring myself to say anything more positive than that about a Vauxhall). |
That generation of Astra drives well. Beaten by the Focus on points.
They're also much cheaper to buy used.
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The New Civic is something else... unless that's what you meant? Jap cars are always crap inside. I was driving a late spec Honda Legend last week and it felt like I was driving a posh NHS waiting room. All plastic and no imagination. |
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The leather had no character, the switches were all ridiculously huge and tacky, the radio was pants and the centre console looked almost as tacky as the one in the B6 Passat. |
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In news:MPG.204a5035b47c701c1348 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net, Elder <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wittered on forthwith; In article <HNWDh.18213$j7.362914 (AT) news (DOT) indigo.ie>, usenet@retro- renault.com says... DervMan wrote: ...about the Audi A3. It's *much* nicer than the Golf equivalent, rather than "nicer." Still too expensive mind you! Sensible people buy Leons and get the best of both worlds People with driving gloves, nodding hippies and a range of sunglasses drive Seats. I *like* Leons, but I think the A3 is crap - not as crap as the Mk4/5 Golf, but crap. |
I wanted to dislike the Audi for being overpriced, dull to sit in and
unexciting. I dislike it for being overpriced and unexciting, but it's a
nicer place to spend time.
Come to think of it I really need to borrow it for a trip to and from
Edinburgh to check relative seat comfort compared with the 9-3.
The 9-3 diesel is the only car I've owned where it wouldn't be uncomfortable
to drive non stop so as to empty the tank after just filling it.
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The DervMan
www.dervman.com
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In news:45e04ce1$0$2459$db0fefd9 (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk, I see a 147 GTA and think, "he's a local" because nobody would take one beyond twenty minutes of home or a dealership, surely? :-) I would. I drove my 164 Q4 forwards and backwards to Italy a fair few times and it was reliable. I suspect the constant tyre replacements on a 147 would be enough to put me off. |
well :-) You know, till I understeered off into a field at 120mph.
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Dan
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I've toyed with the idea of a Cupra R for my next car :-) But think I prefer the Civic Type R to be honest. CTR FTW. >-) FTW? I've never driven a Cupra R - I've driven my mates CTR a few times, and it's a magnificent piece of kit, the engine is simply a piece of mechanical art. The closest I've driven to a Cupra R is a 150bhp Golf 1.8T, which when driven hard back to back with my 206, barely felt any quicker than the 206. It was smoother, and when driven at 6/10ths was easier to go briskly - but not a great deal. Having said that, it only 40bhp on me, combined with about 300/400kgs so I suppose that's to be expected. I've also considered R32s, but they're too much coin, and 147 GTAs but I don't think I dare. And an S2000 if my back will let me after more surgery in a month or so. |
they're at least easy to get into. Nice engine though but the Cupra R
feels faster unless you're really pushing. They're relatively
comfortable, certainly better than a golf or a3 and a much nicer place
to be in than an octavia. They're a lot faster than a 150 bhp golf as
well.
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James
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Iridium wrote: I've toyed with the idea of a Cupra R for my next car :-) But think I prefer the Civic Type R to be honest. CTR FTW. >-) FTW? I've never driven a Cupra R - I've driven my mates CTR a few times, and it's a magnificent piece of kit, the engine is simply a piece of mechanical art. The closest I've driven to a Cupra R is a 150bhp Golf 1.8T, which when driven hard back to back with my 206, barely felt any quicker than the 206. It was smoother, and when driven at 6/10ths was easier to go briskly - but not a great deal. Having said that, it only 40bhp on me, combined with about 300/400kgs so I suppose that's to be expected. I've also considered R32s, but they're too much coin, and 147 GTAs but I don't think I dare. And an S2000 if my back will let me after more surgery in a month or so. You don't want a ctr than as the suspension is harsh but I suppose they're at least easy to get into. Nice engine though but the Cupra R feels faster unless you're really pushing. They're relatively comfortable, certainly better than a golf or a3 and a much nicer place to be in than an octavia. They're a lot faster than a 150 bhp golf as well. |
don't have the smoothest of roads round here heh. To be fair, the 150bhp
was only quoted cos it was the closest thing to a Leon I'd driven heh. It
was disappointing for a 1.8T to say the least.
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Dan
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"Pete M" <pete.murray (AT) bogoffwithzepressedmeatblueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:erpnn7$utk$2 (AT) registered (DOT) motzarella.org... In news:MPG.204a5035b47c701c1348 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net, Elder <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wittered on forthwith; In article <HNWDh.18213$j7.362914 (AT) news (DOT) indigo.ie>, usenet@retro- renault.com says... DervMan wrote: ...about the Audi A3. It's *much* nicer than the Golf equivalent, rather than "nicer." Still too expensive mind you! Sensible people buy Leons and get the best of both worlds People with driving gloves, nodding hippies and a range of sunglasses drive Seats. I *like* Leons, but I think the A3 is crap - not as crap as the Mk4/5 Golf, but crap. I wanted to dislike the Audi for being overpriced, dull to sit in and unexciting. I dislike it for being overpriced and unexciting, but it's a nicer place to spend time. Come to think of it I really need to borrow it for a trip to and from Edinburgh to check relative seat comfort compared with the 9-3. The 9-3 diesel is the only car I've owned where it wouldn't be uncomfortable to drive non stop so as to empty the tank after just filling it. |
Mate of mine just paid £21k for it (93 'K' plate, 12,300 miles from new,
utterly unmarked) *That's* the way to drive on a long run.
I'm driving it to Southern Spain in the next few months, that'll be an
annoying few days.
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Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force -
Golf GTi,
Mercedes 190E Auto
OMF#9
Ok, I admit it, I like Renault 5s.
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