Was just working out the arguements to the missus, why an LPG rangie
(cheap car, cheap parts, loads of room, easy to work on, comfy for my
back, cheap fuel for the minute) would make sense (I won't tell her the
downside like rust, needs loads of those cheap parts if you are
unlucky).

So I started looking up size specs. She always moans that my cars are
two big. Amazingly, the superhumgous country pile on wheels rangie is
about 4" shorter than the salesman with toys spec Octavia. Granted it is
about 2" wider, and about 3 stories taller, but I was amazed at how
short the ordinary 3/5 door rangie is. Not the LSE granted, but the
normal one.
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"Elder" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote


Take two cars. Both identical. Make one twice as long by welding a bit in
the middle.
Now the shorter one uses much more fuel at constant speed (say 70 on the
motorway) than the longer one does.
Nothing else changed. Its basic aerodynamics.
Doesent make sense does it? But its true.

My Granada 2.3 was more economical on the motorway than the XR2i was by
quite a margin for this reason.
Granada could do 60 all day on cruise control (if you could stand it) and
get a fuel computer reading of 48 mpg.
XR2i could only manage 44 at absolute best occasionally. And the granada was
an auto...
Vehicles evolve slowly but thats why they keep ketting longer...
They keep getting wider too though not because it helps aerodynamics because
it does not, but because they want more interior space and thicker safer
doors etc.

In article <N%Lxh.66$Fg4.23 (AT) newsfe5-win (DOT) ntli.net>,
burgerman (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com says...
aerodynamics.

Still, it helped in the arguement for me wanting a rougher looking but
cheaper to buy, cheaper to insure, cheaper to fuel, cheaper to repair if
it needs it, yet still fun to drive V8 didn't it
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"Elder" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote

I thought you were looking at Range Rovers?

--
Dan

In article <52phhaF1pp103U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>,
iridiumdan (AT) googlemail (DOT) com says...
Octavia length wise.
Mid eighties 3.5 auto rangie should be all of the above if nothing goes
into catastrophic meltdown. And if it does, I'm looking to buy so
cheaply that I should get most of that back as parts if needed.
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"Elder" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote

We have differing ideas of 'fun' :-)

--
Dan

In article <52pjooF1p3b20U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>,
iridiumdan (AT) googlemail (DOT) com says...

bothered by little things like rivers, pot holes, lowered Saxos. That
kind of thing.

Suits me as fun.
--
Carl Robson
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"Elder" <carl.robson (AT) bouncing-czechs (DOT) com> wrote

i'm tempted by the V8 idea but ever since seeing how easy them old landies
roll on 5th gear a while back really puts me off!

In article <67CdnULfwcCTe1XYnZ2dnUVZ8qCqnZ2d (AT) pipex (DOT) net>, None (AT) none (DOT) com
says...
Simple really.
If it was good enough for the royals when they went peasant shooting, It
will be good enough for me.
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Vamp wrote:
There's an easy way to avoid rolling a landy/rangie: don't burl the
steering wheel randomly to full lock at high speed. I don't even think
that they are that easy to roll, it's just easier to roll one than it is
to roll a car.

The body control and steering system are not that confidence inspiring
at high speed anyway but they are reknowned for being able to traverse
35degree slopes. Have you ever been in a car traversing a 35 degree
slope? It's fucking steep.

Anyway, 5th Gear is pish, features like that are sensationalist guff
like "Paedophiles live in your fridge" type programs. If you're not
going to use the offroad or towing capability of a rangie or landy,
there are far better (lighter/faster/more entertaining) cars with V8s in
IMHO, which don't have a 40 year old 4WD system attatched.

--
Douglas