Mobile 1 synthetic

#1

I have been told that if I switch over to Mobile 1 syn-oil I can get some
improvement on my MPG's. Is this true or not?
I drive a '98 Chevy C-1500 with a Vortec 350. It has 143,000 miles on it.

#2

"David 89" <cowens8989 (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

I have been told that if I switch over to Mobile 1 syn-oil I can get some
improvement on my MPG's. Is this true or not?
I drive a '98 Chevy C-1500 with a Vortec 350. It has 143,000 miles on it.
Ive found I get a milage improvement whenever I change my oil. Any brand.
For the long term. Ive found that thinner oil gets better milage. But at
the expense of engine wear. These 5 weight / whatever oils are designed to
do just that. Increase milage due to less resistance. Ive found that
thicker oil offers more wear protection at the expense of milage. I dont
put 5 weight anything in my vehicles anymore. My last Totota Echo oil
change using Valvoline 10/30 synthetic followed by a long road trip
resulted in 41.5 mpg highway over 430 miles. The best Ive got once before
is 39mpg. Usually Im in the 35 mpg range. I dont think its the brand of
oil though. Theres too much hype to figure it out now. My opinion is the
oils since about 1996 were changed by the EPA for pollution control, lower
oil consumption, and less engine resistance , and increased milage at the
expense of wear protection. Manufacturers cooperated by tightening up
bearing clearances to allow 5 weight oil to be used.

My 82 Chevy truck averaged 12 on a recent 190 mile camping trip to an Indy
car race. After an oil change of 15/40 diesel truck oil . Tires at 75 psi.
Up from about 6mpg due to poor maintenance. and retarded timing.

Many many years ago I was a Mobil 1 die hard. i ran a couple cars through
their life on Mobil one. Im of the opinion now any oil produced now that
complies with the SAE rating is worse then the oil that was available over
15 years ago. In other words. A SF oil is better then a SL oil. Due to the
EPAs interference. This includes mobil one.
The diesel truck oil doesnt comply and is better. Because trucks have flat
tappets or solid lifters and cant use the new oils or the tappets wipe out.

My opinion, Fire Away.

#3

"None4U" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) none> wrote

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"David 89" <cowens8989 (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message
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I have been told that if I switch over to Mobile 1 syn-oil I can get some
improvement on my MPG's. Is this true or not?
I drive a '98 Chevy C-1500 with a Vortec 350. It has 143,000 miles on it.

Diesel spewed smoke and wrote:

Ive found I get a milage improvement whenever I change my oil. Any brand.

Quote:

For the long term. Ive found that thinner oil gets better milage. But at
the expense of engine wear. These 5 weight / whatever oils are designed
to do just that. Increase milage due to less resistance. Ive found that
thicker oil offers more wear protection at the expense of milage. I dont
put 5 weight anything in my vehicles anymore. My last Totota Echo oil
change using Valvoline 10/30 synthetic followed by a long road trip
resulted in 41.5 mpg highway over 430 miles. The best Ive got once before
is 39mpg. Usually Im in the 35 mpg range. I dont think its the brand of
oil though. Theres too much hype to figure it out now. My opinion is the
oils since about 1996 were changed by the EPA for pollution control, lower
oil consumption, and less engine resistance , and increased milage at the
expense of wear protection. Manufacturers cooperated by tightening up
bearing clearances to allow 5 weight oil to be used.

My 82 Chevy truck averaged 12 on a recent 190 mile camping trip to an Indy
car race. After an oil change of 15/40 diesel truck oil . Tires at 75
psi. Up from about 6mpg due to poor maintenance. and retarded timing.

Many many years ago I was a Mobil 1 die hard. i ran a couple cars through
their life on Mobil one. Im of the opinion now any oil produced now that
complies with the SAE rating is worse then the oil that was available over
15 years ago. In other words. A SF oil is better then a SL oil. Due to the
EPAs interference. This includes mobil one.
The diesel truck oil doesnt comply and is better. Because trucks have flat
tappets or solid lifters and cant use the new oils or the tappets wipe
out.

My opinion, Fire Away.

#4

"David 89" <cowens8989 (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

I have been told that if I switch over to Mobile 1 syn-oil I can get some
improvement on my MPG's. Is this true or not?
I drive a '98 Chevy C-1500 with a Vortec 350. It has 143,000 miles on it.

Probably is true, but the question is how much improvement will you actually
see. Reducing friction will always increase efficiency. I think most all
claims of lubricants reducing mpg actually do improve it, but so little you
often can't measure it with daily driving, unless you specifically drive a
route to work daily and keep good records. But if the gain is 1/100 of a
mpg, their claim is still true. But with oil changes coming every 3 to 4k
miles, do you actually save the cost. My GUESS is no.

#5

The link below shows an independent test done on Class 8 trucks
yielding an average of 8.2 percent improvement in fuel mileage when
AMSOIL lubricants were used in the engine, transmission and third
members of the test vehicles.

AMSOIL has engine oils developed to perform for up to 35,000 miles on
one engine oil change when used with the AMSOIL oil filter.

http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=testimonials/8pt2_morempg

Information on AMSOIL Synthetic Nano-Fiber Technology Oil Filters:

https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao

--
Steve Spence
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Email: amsoil1 (AT) charter (DOT) net

"Tim" <beevis (AT) snotmail (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

"David 89" <cowens8989 (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message
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I have been told that if I switch over to Mobile 1 syn-oil I can
get some
improvement on my MPG's. Is this true or not?
I drive a '98 Chevy C-1500 with a Vortec 350. It has 143,000 miles
on it.

Probably is true, but the question is how much improvement will you
actually
see. Reducing friction will always increase efficiency. I think most
all
claims of lubricants reducing mpg actually do improve it, but so
little you
often can't measure it with daily driving, unless you specifically
drive a
route to work daily and keep good records. But if the gain is 1/100
of a
mpg, their claim is still true. But with oil changes coming every 3
to 4k
miles, do you actually save the cost. My GUESS is no.

#6

I hear ya, and AMSOL is not the only one. Slick 50, Mobile One, and rest of
the endless list have similar reports.

But what I can't understand, is if all this stuff is all that great, why
doesn't everyone already use it, and why don't the automakers insist on it
to help meet the standards for mileage and efficiency?

I have tried AMSOL, Slick 50, Lucus, several synthetics, in many different
type of vehicles, and never witnessed a significant difference.

"Steve" <amsoil1 (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

The link below shows an independent test done on Class 8 trucks
yielding an average of 8.2 percent improvement in fuel mileage when
AMSOIL lubricants were used in the engine, transmission and third
members of the test vehicles.

AMSOIL has engine oils developed to perform for up to 35,000 miles on
one engine oil change when used with the AMSOIL oil filter.

http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=testimonials/8pt2_morempg

Information on AMSOIL Synthetic Nano-Fiber Technology Oil Filters:

https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao

--
Steve Spence
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Email: amsoil1 (AT) charter (DOT) net

#7

The difference is in your sig line. You don't sell it :-)

If it really could yield "8.2%" improvement, you can bet it would ship
in vehicles and be recommended.

I don't doubt it is no worse for a vehicle than conventional oil. But
I remain unconvinced it is significantly better, and I am reall out on
the idea of many of the fantastic claims about some of the lesser
known oils.

I've used Mobile 1 - simply dupbled the intervals compared to
Pennzoil, it was 2x the cost, so a wash on the expense - just did the
chagnes 1/2 as often.

After 200k on a 4 cyl engine, it was about what you'd expect. Nothing
measured new but it was far from worn out.

About what I have seen with regular oil changed short (3,000)
religiously, oil and filter every time.

'Course I change other fluids short also - and do not believe in "5
year/100k" antifreeze and such either.

"Tim" <beevis (AT) snotmail (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

I hear ya, and AMSOL is not the only one. Slick 50, Mobile One, and rest of
the endless list have similar reports.

But what I can't understand, is if all this stuff is all that great, why
doesn't everyone already use it, and why don't the automakers insist on it
to help meet the standards for mileage and efficiency?

I have tried AMSOL, Slick 50, Lucus, several synthetics, in many different
type of vehicles, and never witnessed a significant difference.

"Steve" <amsoil1 (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:bjWhm.114078$9P.37106 (AT) newsfe08 (DOT) iad...
The link below shows an independent test done on Class 8 trucks
yielding an average of 8.2 percent improvement in fuel mileage when
AMSOIL lubricants were used in the engine, transmission and third
members of the test vehicles.

AMSOIL has engine oils developed to perform for up to 35,000 miles on
one engine oil change when used with the AMSOIL oil filter.

http://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=testimonials/8pt2_morempg

Information on AMSOIL Synthetic Nano-Fiber Technology Oil Filters:

https://www.amsoil.com/redirect.cgi?zo=1690163&page=storefront/eao

--
Steve Spence
AMSOIL - The "Once A Year" Oil Change
URL: http://synthetic-oil-tech.com/1690163
Email: amsoil1 (AT) charter (DOT) net

#8

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:30:39 -0500, Miller wrote:

Quote:

The difference is in your sig line. You don't sell it :-)

If it really could yield "8.2%" improvement, you can bet it would ship
in vehicles and be recommended.

Those big rig manufacturers give a longer warrantee if you use synthetics.

#9

Michael Dobony <survey (AT) stopassaultnow (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:30:39 -0500, Miller wrote:

The difference is in your sig line. You don't sell it :-)

If it really could yield "8.2%" improvement, you can bet it would ship
in vehicles and be recommended.

Those big rig manufacturers give a longer warrantee if you use synthetics.

OK, I can believe that, but those are intened for far more miles (10
times?) than the average Joe or Jane runs a conventional gas engine.

#10

Miller wrote:

Quote:

Michael Dobony <survey (AT) stopassaultnow (DOT) net> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:30:39 -0500, Miller wrote:

The difference is in your sig line. You don't sell it :-)

If it really could yield "8.2%" improvement, you can bet it would ship
in vehicles and be recommended.

Those big rig manufacturers give a longer warrantee if you use synthetics.

OK, I can believe that, but those are intened for far more miles (10
times?) than the average Joe or Jane runs a conventional gas engine.

And the statement is not true anyway.