99 Chrysler 300M 3.5L - Cranks, will not start -
05-26-2009
, 08:49 PM
Ok, I am at a loss. Son called me from a friends house and said car
wouldn't start, was running fine when he shut it off, got ready to
leave 2 hours later and nothing.
Went over to check things out, motor turned over normally, almost
started "kinda acted like it is just not getting enough fuel" but
would not run. Threw the car on a trailer, brought it to the house.
Checked fuel pressure at the rail (46-48psi and holds for over 5
minutes) put OBDII scanner on the car, no codes. Checked spark, got
spark on all 6 cylinders. Checked injector pulse, (this is where it
gets strange) on cylinders 1 and 2 I get 1 pulse on intial crank then
nothing. Was really liking the cam or crank postion sensor for this so
I back probed the cam position sensor and got a fluctuating 5vdc,
checked crankshaft position sensor, nothing, pulled it and replaced,
now I got good crank PS signal, went back to injectors, 1 and 2 now
get erratic pulse (and I say that by comparison... because what I
would expect to see, I don't so I worked my way toward the back
cylinders... 3 and 4 seem more like what I would expect, but something
still just doesn't seem right, so checked 5 and 6 and got more of what
I would expect to see and I say that with this caveat.. I almost watch
the noid light in shock, because I would not expect to see it react
the way it does (borderline to much for just cranking the motor
over).
The only thing I have left to check is compression, thinking that
would indicate whether timing belt took a dive (I shudder at this
thought, but the car has 189,000 miles on it and has been very
reliable). However... I have spark and unless I am missing something
there is no way I am getting spark if its broke AND coupled with the
cam position sensor giving me the a flucuating 5v reading when I turn
the motor over with a breaker bar. Also, for S&G, checked resistance
on both sensor outputs to ground got no short on either.
I am leaning more towards the ECM at this point, and I have seen them
just take a dive, but not willing to go out on a limb and drop $250
without SOMETHING definitive.
Is it possible for a Chrysler shop to bench the ECM off the car?
Is it possible for it to jump time and cause the injector pulse to act
this way?
I am at a loss... |