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Lee Gillie
 
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Default Curious PT Cruiser Window Problem - 12-11-2006 , 01:18 AM






The front windows creep down very slowly. The motion is modulated. Both
front windows behave the same way. The other day they completely stopped
lowering. And now today they are back to slow motion. However they both
raise normally. The rear windows and the moon roof operate normally.

My guess it is something I will have to dismantle the dash for. If
anyone has clues as to what component might be failing, what I'm looking
for or where it is, that would be great. Also, is there any online
reference for a wiring diagram for a 2002 PT Cruiser LE?

Thanks - Lee

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Default Re: Curious PT Cruiser Window Problem - 12-11-2006 , 06:19 AM






Lee Gillie wrote:
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...Also, is there any online
reference for a wiring diagram for a 2002 PT Cruiser LE?

Thanks - Lee
www.alldata.com - $25 for first year, first vehicle; $15 for any
additional vehicles or annual renewals thereafter. Schematics are 100%
complete and right out of the FSM. With that you get other information
right out of the FSM, though spotty/not complete, and you have access to
full versions of all TSB's applicable to the vehicle.

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Default Re: Curious PT Cruiser Window Problem - 12-11-2006 , 09:52 AM



Lee Gillie wrote:
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The front windows creep down very slowly. The motion is modulated. Both
front windows behave the same way. The other day they completely stopped
lowering. And now today they are back to slow motion. However they both
raise normally. The rear windows and the moon roof operate normally.

My guess it is something I will have to dismantle the dash for. If
anyone has clues as to what component might be failing, what I'm looking
for or where it is, that would be great. Also, is there any online
reference for a wiring diagram for a 2002 PT Cruiser LE?

Thanks - Lee
Ok, so the common component seems to be the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE, which I
am told is located in the window switch assembly on the console, and
only available through dealers. How bad is it to disassemble the dash to
get to this to replace it myself, would be my next question?

Thanks again - Lee


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Default Re: Curious PT Cruiser Window Problem - 12-11-2006 , 08:03 PM



Lee Gillie wrote:
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Lee Gillie wrote:
The front windows creep down very slowly. The motion is modulated.
Both front windows behave the same way. The other day they completely
stopped lowering. And now today they are back to slow motion. However
they both raise normally. The rear windows and the moon roof operate
normally.

My guess it is something I will have to dismantle the dash for. If
anyone has clues as to what component might be failing, what I'm
looking for or where it is, that would be great. Also, is there any
online reference for a wiring diagram for a 2002 PT Cruiser LE?

Thanks - Lee

Ok, so the common component seems to be the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE, which I
am told is located in the window switch assembly on the console, and
only available through dealers. How bad is it to disassemble the dash to
get to this to replace it myself, would be my next question?

Thanks again - Lee
Called the local dealer today. They told me the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE can
not be purchased separately as seen elsewhere. One must buy the entire
center console switch block. Price is $106. Not knowing what kind of
chore it would be to open up the center console, I asked how much to
install? I was quoted another $72. So I am thinking after tax it is
probably about a two hundred dollar bill. Eeeouch!

If you have any advice for a do-it-yourself with electronics background,
but never had the dash apart, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks - Lee


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Default Re: Curious PT Cruiser Window Problem - 12-12-2006 , 08:22 PM



the switch just pops out easy with a butterknife type tool behind it

Lee Gillie wrote:

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Lee Gillie wrote:
The front windows creep down very slowly. The motion is modulated. Both
front windows behave the same way. The other day they completely stopped
lowering. And now today they are back to slow motion. However they both
raise normally. The rear windows and the moon roof operate normally.

My guess it is something I will have to dismantle the dash for. If
anyone has clues as to what component might be failing, what I'm looking
for or where it is, that would be great. Also, is there any online
reference for a wiring diagram for a 2002 PT Cruiser LE?

Thanks - Lee

Ok, so the common component seems to be the EXPRESS DOWN MODULE, which I
am told is located in the window switch assembly on the console, and
only available through dealers. How bad is it to disassemble the dash to
get to this to replace it myself, would be my next question?

Thanks again - Lee


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Default Re: Curious PT Cruiser Window Problem - 12-14-2006 , 06:21 AM



Lee Gillie wrote:

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Thanks to you, I found the $106 MSRP part for $82.68 delivered, and from
the hint from Philthy, I removed the switch, and can see I can very
easily replace it myself in 2 minutes. I would say between the two of
you that was about $120 in savings. Thank you so much!! - Lee
You're welcome - glad to help. Thanks for posting back.

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