When you begin to get dozens of calls at 5 PM from telemarketers and all of
the paper in your FAX machine is printed out with spam at 2 AM you may feel
differently, unless of course it is not YOUR paper


mike


"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer (AT) cs (DOT) nmsu.edu> wrote

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> writes:
So... so it's sort of a lack of understanding of the differences
between email spam and telemarketing. Nothing to worry about.
--
Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer

In article <1by7orwgrd.fsf (AT) viper (DOT) cs.nmsu.edu>,
Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer (AT) cs (DOT) nmsu.edu> wrote:

What differences?

I guess he never had his FAX spammed.


mike


"Just Facts" <Jfact (AT) intnet (DOT) wrld> wrote

Just Facts <Jfact (AT) intnet (DOT) wrld> writes:

The economics are completely different. Sending email spam,
especially using botnets, is essentially free. Last I saw, estimates
were that the response rate on email spam was down around one in
100,000 -- but the cost of sending the message is so low they're still
making a profit. At those rates, harvesting my email address from
usenet is worth it to them; unfortunately, my email address was in so
many different places long before there was spam that ceasing to use
it on usenet wouldn't make any difference at this point. I don't use
my personal email address on usenet!

A telemarketing call or fax spam costs infinitely more -- up in the
pennies range. For random telemarketers to call my office to make
pitches on the basis of harvesting the phone number from usenet would
be insane; likewise to send spam to the department's fax machine on
that basis.
--
Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605
Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002
New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer

Perhaps, but in the real world they still do so automatically at 3 AM .


mike


"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer (AT) cs (DOT) nmsu.edu> wrote

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

For pete's sake, why are you still cross-posting about this? Nobody cares!
Shut up!

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:26:39 -0500, "Joe" <Joe (AT) dontspam (DOT) net> wrote:

If you were paying attention I explained the 'why' about 12 posts
ago, prior to all the pointless back-and-forth in this thread...

Never mud-wrestle with a pig. It doesn't accomplish anything, and
after a while you realize that the pig is enjoying it.

If you want to keep up with him, that's your business.

--<< Bruce >>--

Perhaps your ire should be directed to the person that cross posted the post
to which I replied.

mike


"Joe" <Joe (AT) dontspam (DOT) net> wrote