Thanks for the comments.

Pictures of the Magnum will be on line tonight!

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"Geoff" <geoff_gariepy (AT) nospam (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote

My first reaction is, "how can the same person buy THOSE two cars
without having a severe personality disorder."

My second reaction is a memory of a friend's S80 burning to a crisp in a
downtown parking garage (oh, how the fire department responded to THAT)
because of an electrical defect.

I probably do have severe personality disorder.

I frequent both the Chrysler and Ford Mustang Newsgroup!

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"Steve" <no (AT) spam (DOT) thanks> wrote

I've had my Magnum RT for 4 days now. That much power for that little price
and that much fuel efficiency (I've averaged 20 mpg city and highway so far)

I need a little help here guys! How do I wipe a big ole freaking smile off
my fu**ing face!
It's a rush driving this darn thing I tell you!

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"Just Me "Koi"" <segun0 (AT) spamnothotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Drive a Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Nissan Altima, or similar generic
disposable people-mover and think about the poor sods that actually PAID
to own one of those things. :-)

So I drove to Palm springs area early this morning for a meeting from Rancho
Cucamonga (Ontario area) on 10 freeway (Relatively flat)
Because of the comfort UConnect, I was able to be on the phone from Ontario
to Cabizon. Also I only cruised at 60-70 mph

At Cabizon I stopped to buy some clothing at the retails outlet and noticed
that my car averaged 29.3 MPG on the computer. Pretty unbelievable!

Of course coming back was more like 23 mpg since there was traffic and when
there was no traffic I was more attentive (meaning I was flying)

I have posted pictures I took of the odometer on my webshots site below.
Look in the album with cars.

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"Just Me "Koi"" <segun0 (AT) spamnothotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Volvo was still doing very well when Pehr Gyllenhammar, the leader of
their corporate change from "Fordism" (mindless assembly lines) to
team-based work, finally retired. His successor felt the company was
coddling its employees (apparently hadn't read Gyllenhammar's book,
People at Work, available at Amazon - no, you can't have my copy!) and
got strict on 'em, they partnered with Mitsubishi, and the execs chose
to sell the car business to Ford. None of these bode well for Volvo.

I remember the 240GL fondly - it was a tank with an interior that made
my 1976 Valiant look like a Lexus, a shifter that was harder to use than
the one in my Sundance, and quality that didn't quit. (The 740 was a bit
more refined). I loved the 850's eager engine and I liked its upgraded
interior, though some of their fittings were not quite up to the
standard set by the Sundance and Neon! Still a great car overall. Of
course you paid a premium for ANY Volvo. But you do that for a Honda or
Toyota, too.

Mercedes and BMW could learn a lot about quality from Volvo of the
1970s-1990s. Of course, Mercedes could also learn from Mercedes of the
1980s.

PS> For what it's worth...
http://www.allpar.com/cars/lx/magnum-review.html is a Dodge Magnum R/T
(or Magnum RT) review based on my own experience.

Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, David Zatz wrote:

??!! Huh?

One of the nicer aspects of the 240 was its manual-transmission shifter.
There must've been something wrong with yours. The automatic shifter was
just fine, too.

I don't disagree with that. However, even in the eighties Merc had
instances of problems, as did, I suppose, every one else.

Nowadays increasing complexity has something to
do with declining reliability, not just chez Mercedes.

DAS
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"David Zatz" <submit (AT) allpar (DOT) com> wrote

[.........]
.. Of course, Mercedes could also learn from Mercedes of the