Stopped by a Chrysler dealer. Not another sole around including no
salesman. Started looking at Pacifica's. It is a shame the arm rests
aren't bigger in the front as someone else mentioned, but no a killer
for me. Carpet seemed very poor quality. A likely problem is the
front headliner opening for the sunroof. Sure to rattle and maybe
bend out of shape.

Hello Art.

Ken here. It was I that was seriously considering the Pacifica.

There are several mandatory items I look for in purchasing a vehicle because
I drive often and sometimes on very long drives.

The armrest and a high center are very important for me. I like to lean my
leg to the side as opposed to keeping it straight. The armrest and the
comments of lacking power were the two that killed it.

I have an '02 300M, which I love, and decided to replace my previous
Expedition with a new one as opposed to the Pacifica and SUVs I looked at.
All I can say is that I wasn't happy with most of the vehicles I looked at
this year; including the Expedition. Ford really got CHEAP.

Perhaps I should've purchased the Pacifica and used a pillow where the
armrest is or purchased the Yukon Denali.

I still think the Pacifica is a nice vehicle that offers a lot of nice
options including heated front AND middle row seats, HID lights, DVD
Entertainment center, love where they placed the seat switches. Great
vehicle. A replacement for the M????

Live and learn....

Ken


"Art Begun" <beguna (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote

Did you hit your head on the "A" piller getting into or out of the
front seat? I did and I'm only 5'10". Setting with the front seat
adjusted to me it seemed like the "A" pillers were also sort of in the
way. Kind of felt cramped to me. I've never driven one and only sat
in two or three different Pacificas but I'm kind of underwhelmed.

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:34:48 -0400, "Art Begun"
<beguna (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote:

Being the start of Mercedes "E" class, this is a great vehicle to
consider. It is a very sturdy vehicle, with a lot of wonderful options
and will be no doubt a "Great ownership experience to many who purchase
it".

***It also comes with an automatic "rental car" policy for repairs and
even if your only getting an oil change, the dealer will give you a
rental care "free of charge" so you can continue on with your daily
schedule and get your car maintained at the same time***

In article <18336-3F11472D-17 (AT) storefull-2293 (DOT) public.lawson.webtv.net>,
gmangsm2 (AT) webtv (DOT) net (Galen) wrote:
Please translate the above. The Pacifica has nothing in common with the
E-class. Its suspesion is based on the E-class's, but certainly not an
E-class suspension bolted in. And nothing else is similar.

what I was saying, is this is Chryslers newest version of what they want
the general public to believe is the "E" class. as they want it to be.
Chrysler is trying to target the market of the "E" class customers in
this particula market by providing a more luxruious model at a
reasonable price.
make any sense?????

"Galen" <gmangsm2 (AT) webtv (DOT) net> wrote

I don't think the public will buy that, I know I don't. Lack of power
combined with only fair fuel milage and way too high a price kill it for me.
My PT cruiser also has a lack of power combined with only fair milage, but
killer looks and functionality combined with a good price sold me on it; I
still love mine after 40,000 miles.

Richard.

In article <2616-3F134A8B-192 (AT) storefull-2298 (DOT) public.lawson.webtv.net>,
gmangsm2 (AT) webtv (DOT) net (Galen) wrote:
I still don't understand what you mean by "E class." Are you saying Chrysler
is trying to make people believe this is a Mercedes? Because not so --
Chrysler has never mentioned anything about Mercedes.


I doubt any Mercedes E-class owners are going to be enticed by a
transverse-engine 2-ton high wagon.

Galen wrote:

It has never been marketed that way at all, and Chrysler would be very
wise to DISsociate from any relationship to the E-class. The E-class is
second only to the M-class in problems, and both of those are quite a
lot worse than Dodge, Plymouth, and Chrysler vehicles over the past
couple of years. The M-class is a horror, the E-class merely a nightmare.

I'm sure Bob Lutz is grinning ear-to-ear over that :-)