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Default Re: PT Cruiser key question - 10-28-2009 , 11:49 PM






On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:14:43 -0700, Ashton Crusher <demi (AT) moore (DOT) net>
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:37:57 -0700, bllsht
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:00:10 -0400, "Wesley" <wesf (AT) rica (DOT) net> wrote:

Is the transponder (key) programmed for the vehicle, or is the vehicle
programmed to recognize the transponder? It would seem to me that the car
would be more easily reprogrammed than the "key"... Not that the system
designers would necessarily think the same way I do of course...!

Wesley

Both are true. The key is programmed with info from the vehicle, and
the vehicle is programmed with the key's ID.

The key's ID can be erased from the vehicle, but once programmed, the
key cannot be reprogrammed to another vehicle.


What would be the point? I fail to see the logic of it. I'm not
saying you are wrong.
Wish I could tell ya, but I don't know. Maybe they thought it would
have a negative impact on security of the system.

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Default Re: PT Cruiser key question - 10-29-2009 , 10:53 AM






wwilson wrote:
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The responder has two batteries in series. I have replaced mine for a
2001 PT. They cost about $4 apiece at my local battery source.
I'm not talking about the remote, I'm talking about the Sentry security
key. Which has no replaceable parts whatsoever.


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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:07:14 -0400, Steve <no (AT) spam (DOT) thanks> wrote:

Pete E. Kruzer wrote:
Is the battery replaceable? How long will the Sentry Key work? My 2001
Cruiser uses one.

What battery? The key transponder is either powered by the
interrogation signal from the car, or is just a passive resonant
circuit. No battery. Similar to modern toll road tags, parking garage
access tags, RFID price tags, etc. etc.




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Default Re: PT Cruiser key question - 10-29-2009 , 10:56 AM



Ashton Crusher wrote:
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:07:14 -0500, Steve <no (AT) spam (DOT) thanks> wrote:

Pete E. Kruzer wrote:
Is the battery replaceable? How long will the Sentry Key work? My 2001
Cruiser uses one.
What battery? The key transponder is either powered by the interrogation
signal from the car, or is just a passive resonant circuit. No battery.
Similar to modern toll road tags, parking garage access tags, RFID price
tags, etc. etc.

The current keys include both the transponder, which needs no battery,
and the remote buttons for the keyless entry, and that does need the
batteries. If you buy the simple transponder keys there is no battery
and it's smaller.

Smaller- but still stupidly big. I HATE modern car keys with big fat
heads holding transponders or remotes. A simple brass key is SO much
more convenient and so much easier to carry on a keyring.

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Default Re: PT Cruiser key question - 10-29-2009 , 11:31 AM



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Smaller- but still stupidly big. I HATE modern car keys with big fat
heads holding transponders or remotes. A simple brass key is SO much
more convenient and so much easier to carry on a keyring
I'll tell ya what. I'll take the stupidly big key. I offers theft
protection plus
a discount in my auto insurance premiums.

Can you say that for the simple brass key??

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Default Re: PT Cruiser key question - 10-29-2009 , 12:58 PM



"Pete E. Kruzer" <tomkanpa (AT) comcast (DOT) net> writes:

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Smaller- but still stupidly big. I HATE modern car keys with big fat
heads holding transponders or remotes. A simple brass key is SO much
more convenient and so much easier to carry on a keyring

I'll tell ya what. I'll take the stupidly big key. I offers theft
protection plus
a discount in my auto insurance premiums.

Can you say that for the simple brass key??
Given the actual size of an RFID tag, there's no need for such a
ginormous head on a transponder key.
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As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should
be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)

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Default Re: PT Cruiser key question - 10-29-2009 , 03:01 PM



Pete E. Kruzer wrote:
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Smaller- but still stupidly big. I HATE modern car keys with big fat
heads holding transponders or remotes. A simple brass key is SO much
more convenient and so much easier to carry on a keyring

I'll tell ya what. I'll take the stupidly big key. I offers theft
protection plus
a discount in my auto insurance premiums.

Can you say that for the simple brass key??

Doesn't make squat of a difference on my insurance, and auto theft is
just not an issue around here. Especially not our PT cruiser. Gimme a
key that fits in my pocket.

Besides, there's NO reason that a transponder/security key HAS to be as
big as a hockey puck. It could be much smaller, as is the case with the
keyless ignition transponders that fit in a wallet.

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Default Re: PT Cruiser key question - 11-01-2009 , 07:53 PM



Steve wrote:
Quote:
Pete E. Kruzer wrote:
Is the battery replaceable? How long will the Sentry Key work? My 2001
Cruiser uses one.

What battery? The key transponder is either powered by the interrogation
signal from the car, or is just a passive resonant circuit. No battery.
Similar to modern toll road tags, parking garage access tags, RFID price
tags, etc. etc.
That's why you will feel your gonads tingle every once in a while for no
apparent reason.

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Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')

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Default Re: PT Cruiser key question - 11-01-2009 , 08:01 PM



Joe Pfeiffer wrote:

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...You set a 1
by putting a big enough current through a junction to quite literally
blow a tiny fuse...
That's done using homotrons.

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