Ok, I give up, since August of 2002 I've had 8 Badyear Eagles on my PT -- 3
were taken out by a panic stop leaving "flat spots" , one was replaced when
a belt separated, and now today ANOTHER with the belt separating!!! Im done
with Goodyear forever, they couldn't give them to me for FREE now!!!!!

So, I've been hearing Cooper tires are pretty good, any other suggestions,
or which type of Coopers???

Thanks;
SRG

Michelin are the best. I used to work with DC and we used to get dealers to
switch to Michelin's because of the quality. damn good ride. I only use
Michelin's because of it.
"SRG" <Idont (AT) thinkso (DOT) net> wrote

What kills me is after the 300M/Goodyear fiasco Chrysler goes back to
Goodyears. When will they learn. Someone needs to explain to their
accountants that if the tires are hard as rocks after 1 year use the ride
will suck and everyone will hate their Chrysler car.


"deadbeat" <dbeat@(nospam)cox.net> wrote

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004, SRG wrote:

Welcome to the "Goodyear Sucks" club. Membership: Everyone who's suffered
through the OE tires on a Chrysler product.

I've hated every Yokohama I've ever used. Michelin makes some nice tires
but they're all overpriced. BFGoodrich tires have been consistently very,
very good to me, and they just introduced a new one, the Traction T/A. I
took a look at the tests and buyer reviews at www.tirerack.com
http://www.tirerack.com/survey/Surve...tion+T%2FA +H
and was bowled over by the consistently happy reviews. Ordered a set for
my Spirit R/T project.

DS

SRG wrote:
I've had Cooper Touring SLE T-rateds on my Concorde for over a year and
25k miles and am extremely happy with them. I posted a few months ago
that I thought one went out of round, and the dealer replaced it at no
charge. Same shaking started again recently, and they determined that a
weight had been thrown (the last 3/4 mile of my 38 mile trek to work
every day is over a pot-holed gravel road x 2) - I suspect that is all
that happened to the first one because they rebalanced them this time
and everything's smooth as glass again.

The Touring SLE is treadwear rated at 620/70k miles, and all indications
are that that is an honest figure - I can't believe how slowly they are
wearing. $70-80 each (and many places give "free" rotation and
balancing for the life of the tire for that price).

I'm sure there are some good so-called high-performance tires out there,
but I had a very bad experience with the first ones I tried (became
extremely noisy and at least one was definitely out of round), and
discovered that (from what I understand) no (or almost no) manufacturers
will cover tires in the "high peformance" category under warranty for
anything short of self-destruction in an obvious way apparently because
they assume they were abused because of the nature of the
high-performance market. To my way of thinking, with hi-perf tires, you
are typically paying a lot more money for a lot more noise and harshness
with a fraction of the treadlife and no warranty protection if anything
goes wrong for slightly more road-hugging and traction (compared to a
decent touring tire like the Cooper SLE). Not a good value IMO.

You wouldn't believe how quiet and smooth the SLE's are. Plus very good
road hugging and hydroplane resistance for considerably less money to
get similar properties.

Bill Putney
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I bought a set of Michelin Hydroedge tires to replace the Goodyears on my 99
Intrepid. I knew they were expensive at the time I bought them, but I have
had some nasty experiences with 'bargain tires". It took a couple of months
to get used to the Michelins, but now after about 6 months, I wouldn't trade
them for any other tire. Great in snow or rain although they can be just
a bit noisey on dry pavement. I feel they were worth the money.

Arthur

"Bill Putney" <bputney (AT) kinez (DOT) net> wrote

Bridgestones, especially the ones mfg in Japan!
"SRG" <Idont (AT) thinkso (DOT) net> wrote

Thanks for all the replies, I've looked into Coopers, BFGoodrich, and
Michelin. After hearing many suggestions from different sources, I choose
Cooper LifeLine Touring SLE. I paid $85 each for the 2 tires to replace my
front tires, and hope to do the rears soon.
I've heard good things from many people about Cooper, BFGoodrich and the
Michelin HydroEdge. Commen to almost all the comments was that they had
problems with the Goodyears. It's a shame, what has happened to this good
American company??
I replaced the front 2 tires, one of course, was the tire with the
separating belt. Since my wife has Goodyears on her PT, I saved the "good"
tire, in case we run into any more defect problems. It was ironic that the
"good" tire, turned out to be the one I had to have patched a few weeks
ago....

SRG

040709 2000 - Daniel J. Stern posted:

I've got a set of Yokohama's on my 2001 LE and they are just fine. I went
to a Discount Tire dealer in the area and they had a used set of Yokohama's
there. The salesman said that they had around 100 miles on them. They were
sold to an individual for his PT and he didn't like them and brought them
back. They were wider than what I had on the car -- more rubber on the
road. He offered me quite a discount, so I had them put on the car. No
complaint. They have been on there for about a year now. The car
suspension is stiff anyway, and with those tires, it is extremely stable on
the road. Straight as a string, and not a quiver.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, indago wrote:

And many people are completely satisfied with tires (lights, seats,
cars...) that are "just fine".

I'm not.

DS