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Default Re: Can Chrysler hit jackpot again? - 05-18-2007 , 12:23 PM







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I've not heard of the lack of CVT engine braking.
That's very important for my driving in the mountains and it would be
unacceptable.


Which would you rather replace: tranny or brake pads?
Neither. Engine braking doesn't wear out the transmission- unlike brake
pads an automatic transmission's friction elements are made for
*millions* of cycles and are continuously bathed in a lubricant/coolant.
Pulling the lever down a gear or two on a downgrade for engine braking
is no more wearing on the transmission (less, actually) than pulling
away from a stop, and you do that dozens of times every single day
without worring about the transmission wear, don't you? Riding the
brakes in mountain driving for the mythical goal of "saving" the
transmission is just wrong-headed and potentially dangerous.


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Default Re: Can Chrysler hit jackpot again? - 05-19-2007 , 10:15 PM







"Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer (AT) cs (DOT) nmsu.edu> wrote

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Some O <SO (AT) nospam (DOT) net> writes:

In article <njIMh.84$sN2.47 (AT) newsfe04 (DOT) lga>, "Joe" <Joe (AT) dontspam (DOT) net
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Well, on the CVT, it's an "everybody is doing it" thing. It gets
results on
paper. I think the CVT is going to bow out as the most hated auto
technology ever.

Any particular reason?

I've not driven one, but it is sounding very good.
The design has been improved many times over the years and is now used
in a wide variety of cars. Initially it was only in small low power
cars.
The only negative I've heard recently is the lack of adequate shift
points.

Negative? That's the point! Artificially adding shift points strikes
me as idiotic.
Exactly. Now you're getting somewhere. Why would anyone couple an advanced
technology with idiocy? The answer is because PEOPLE HATE IT. That's what
I said above. You have to remember that everybody feels, but not everybody
thinks.

We live in a world where a $70,000 car was engineered with a pipe from the
intake manifold into the passenger compartment to generate noise. That's
reality. Stupid, yes, but they did it. They did it because they thought
their rich customers would like it.




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Default Re: Can Chrysler hit jackpot again? - 05-19-2007 , 11:01 PM



"Joe" <Joe (AT) dontspam (DOT) net> writes:
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Negative? That's the point! Artificially adding shift points strikes
me as idiotic.

Exactly. Now you're getting somewhere. Why would anyone couple an advanced
technology with idiocy? The answer is because PEOPLE HATE IT. That's what
I said above. You have to remember that everybody feels, but not everybody
thinks.
So... it's going to go down as the most hated automotive technology
in history (somehow beating out such gems as seat belt interlocks and
talking dashboards) because people are too ignorant to understand it
and too stupid to be educated?

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We live in a world where a $70,000 car was engineered with a pipe from the
intake manifold into the passenger compartment to generate noise. That's
reality. Stupid, yes, but they did it. They did it because they thought
their rich customers would like it.
Well, I like to hear what my engine is doing... sounds like it wasn't
a terribly cost-effective way to do it (just using less insulation
would have done it at less cost), but it isn't like they had a little
speaker making vroom-vroom noises. That would be an analogous
decision.


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Default Re: Can Chrysler hit jackpot again? - 05-20-2007 , 03:00 AM



In article <N3P3i.125$U54.115 (AT) newsfe02 (DOT) lga>, "Joe" <Joe (AT) dontspam (DOT) net>
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We live in a world where a $70,000 car was engineered with a pipe from the
intake manifold into the passenger compartment to generate noise. That's
reality. Stupid, yes, but they did it. They did it because they thought
their rich customers would like it.
If you pay a bit more you get very wide low profile tires with no side
wall depth that ride like shit.
I saw 25 profile tires on a Mercedes sedan the other day, UGH!
Those with lots of money base their buying more on emotion, particularly
if they want to make an impression.


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Default Re: Can Chrysler hit jackpot again? - 05-20-2007 , 05:00 PM




"who" <i (AT) notaspammer (DOT) net> wrote

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In article <N3P3i.125$U54.115 (AT) newsfe02 (DOT) lga>, "Joe" <Joe (AT) dontspam (DOT) net
wrote:

We live in a world where a $70,000 car was engineered with a pipe from
the
intake manifold into the passenger compartment to generate noise. That's
reality. Stupid, yes, but they did it. They did it because they thought
their rich customers would like it.
If you pay a bit more you get very wide low profile tires with no side
wall depth that ride like shit.
I saw 25 profile tires on a Mercedes sedan the other day, UGH!
Those with lots of money base their buying more on emotion, particularly
if they want to make an impression.
Right, and if you're real lucky, you might get to run over a bump and bend
the rim. Then you'll know you've really made the big time.




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