In article <12tbauvf9lajsc3 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>,
"Jim Higgins" <gordian238 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

He was into our society. Those car ads he starred in were the top ad
joke, which wasn't that great an achievement considering how DUMB most
auto ads have been over the last several years. I see nothing in recent
cars ads that would spark me into going to a dealer to look at a car.
They convey absolutely no info on the product.

Speaking as an "old geezer" that grew up on 60's and 70's Mopars and
would not back then consider owning any other brand, I saw Chrysler
fall prey to the "me too" method of product planning. I once
preferred their products BECAUSE they were not like Ford or GM. I
lost interest in the cars when the last V8 rear drives went away in
1989 and then the trucks went "me too" cute in 1994. I went over to
the Jeep division because they were sticking with their heritage
somewhat.

Now since the Mercedes influence has flushed the Jeep genetics down
the drain and is trying to sell "yuppie wagons" with a Jeep sticker on
them, they have taken all my reasons to remain loyal away.

Not a good sign in my opinion...

In article <1172337360.506702.253620 (AT) t69g2000cwt (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
"Highcountry" <highcountry2000 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

I've been wondering what a Jeep user thought of the DC Jeeps.
You're another example of DC losing the traditional Chrysler customers.
They just didn't understand the market over here for that level of
vehicle. Now can new Chrysler managers get it back?

I notice Jeep has a Caliper knock off called Compass. In the pictures it
looks a bit better than the ugly Caliper; what it will look like in the
live?

On the Jeep products and the Dodge trucks, the changes that I don't
like are the elimination of Actual Toughness and replacing it with
Plastic Toughness.

If you are a Farmer or Rancher, you must replace the front and rear
bumpers on a new truck before using it or you will destroy the
Aluminum Foil factory stock ones on the first day. The body metal
has been made so thin that you can not step on the side of the cargo
bed without bending it with your foot.

I don't give a Rat's Rearend about the Upholstery, Carpet, Sound
System, GPS, Power Windows, Power Seats, etc. All I need is a truck
tough enough not to have pieces literally falling off when it is a
month old. I have been involved in this for almost 40 years and have
observed each generation of "new and improved" pickups is less tough
than the last.

The Ford Super Duty is the best of the current crop and it is only
marginal...