Re: Fiat CEO: Chrysler worse than we thought

#21

In article
<ddd1f579-4eb6-412e-800c-c398bb8d601c (AT) j39g2000yqh (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
"erschroedinger (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <erschroedinger (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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In fact, since the Chryslers are now made only in Windsor, Ontario,
the Honda and Toyota are the only minivans made in the US.

They are all made in NAFTA.
As is the Neon from Mexico.
As is the Chrysler 300 from Canada.
As was the Chrysler LH line from Canada.

#22

In article <1bfxa5qs9d.fsf (AT) snowball (DOT) wb.pfeifferfamily.net>,
Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer (AT) cs (DOT) nmsu.edu> wrote:

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Oddly, while he was wrong about where the Odyssey and Sienna are made,
you're focussing on the fact that the Chrysler minivans are made in
Canada as if he made the mistake there -- and he did, after all, refer
to them as "NA"-made.

They're all from AMERICA, North America.

#23

In article <1LidnVbqFZg7h1nXnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d (AT) texas (DOT) net>,
Steve <no (AT) spam (DOT) thanks> wrote:

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But all Toyotas and Hondas are still foreign cars. Period. I don't give
a rip where its assembled, I care where its designed and where the money
ultimately goes when I buy it.

They do design work in NAFTA.
As does Nissan, BMW, Mercedes, etc.

#24

Steve wrote:

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But all Toyotas and Hondas are still foreign cars. Period. I don't
give a rip where its assembled, I care where its designed and where
the money ultimately goes when I buy it.

Is that true for all the other consumer products and even food that you
buy?

Or are you just grandstanding by making that statement?

#25

Top-posting is bad form. I will now re-organize your post so that it is
more readable:

Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

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We all buy each-others products along free-market, free-access
lines. You can't say that for US vs EU trade, or US vs Japan
trade.

Any examples?

For starters, is there a free-trade agreement in place between US and
Japan?

Or between the US and EU?

Don't you need a free trade agreement in place between two countries in
order to say that each country has access to the other countries
markets?

No import taxes or duties, no quotes, no trade prohibitions or
restrictions?

#26

Bottom-posting is bad form. Forces me to scroll through reams of stuff I
don'y need.

Try "live and let live".

What quotas, trade prohibions or restrictions are there between the US and
EU?

There are probably some duties (likely only a few percent), but not specific
against anyone in particular in general.

DAS
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"MoPar Man" <MoPar (AT) Man (DOT) com> wrote

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Top-posting is bad form. I will now re-organize your post so that it is
more readable:
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No import taxes or duties, no quotes, no trade prohibitions or
restrictions?

#27

Dori A Schmetterling wrote:

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in particular in general.

DAS

I think you just created an oxymoron. But it does have meaning in context.

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Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

#28

I see what you mean... :-)

DAS

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I think you just created an oxymoron. But it does have meaning in
context.
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#29

MoPar Man wrote:

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Steve wrote:

But all Toyotas and Hondas are still foreign cars. Period. I don't
give a rip where its assembled, I care where its designed and where
the money ultimately goes when I buy it.

Is that true for all the other consumer products and even food that you
buy?

Or are you just grandstanding by making that statement?

Its impossible to buy 100% American, nor would I really want to do so. A
global economy is both a reality and a good thing. But I don't like the
trend in some products where you CANNOT buy an American-designed or
manufactured version. I am not grandstanding when I say that, when
possible, I will go out of my way to buy something designed and made by
and American-owned company versus overseas-owned. I'll pay more (within
reason)as well as go to a less-convenient sales point if necessary.

I also really do consider design more than assembly point. The assembly
plant is the least advanced part of a company, so I'd rather see the
innovation and engineering done in the US and the assembly done overseas
versus using the US as an assembly point just to claim "American made!"
on a label.

#30

On Sep 30, 10:57*pm, Steve <n... (AT) spam (DOT) thanks> wrote:

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erschroedin... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
On Sep 19, 8:42 am, QX <nom... (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote:
Let's remember that the Grand Caravan/Town & Country are
still selling above expectations. They are the only NA made
minivans and still the perfect choice for the large family.

When did Alabama secede from NA? *'Cause the Honda Odyssey is made
right here in Lincoln, Alabama.
Also, when did Indiana secede? *The Toyota Sienna is made Princeton,
Indiana.

In fact, since the Chryslers are now made only in Windsor, Ontario,
the Honda and Toyota are the only minivans made in the US.

But all Toyotas and Hondas are still foreign cars. Period. I don't give
a rip where its assembled, I care where its designed and where the money
ultimately goes when I buy it.

Most Toyotas and Hondas are designed in the US. Both companies have
extensive design studios in California, and some models are sold only
in the US and are designed solely for the US (e.g., full-size pickups,
minivans).

And as for where the money goes, buy stock in Toyota or Honda and them
some of the money will go here. That is, in addition to all the auto
workers they employ, all their dealers, all the workers at their
dealers, ... All of whom are Americans and are getting a big chunk of
the money.