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Jerry McG
 
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Default Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! - 07-01-2004 , 11:49 AM






I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
three times.

Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
contamination and breakdown.
"Grumpy" <grumpy (AT) nothappy (DOT) com> wrote

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Are you the owner of a Jeep Grand Cherokee that did not live up to
expectations?



More directly, did your Jeep Grand Cherokee suffer a premature rear axle
bearing failure? Did you find your contacts with Chrysler Corporation to
be
unproductive in getting assistance to pay for the repair?



I invite you to email your story, photos and receipts to



http://grandcherokeedefects.blogspot.com



All information will be turned over to a lawyer for possible class action
status.



All information will be kept strictly confidential. Stories and photos
will
be shared to attract more owners of defective Grand Cherokees.



Check updates at



http://grandcherokeedefects.blogspot.com



Thank You






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RPhillips47
 
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Default Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! - 07-01-2004 , 12:17 PM






Rob Munach wrote:

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Actually, my brother-in-law just had to get new bearings in the rear of
his JGC at 100,000 miles. I thought that was unusual.
Yeah - my JGC has 194,000 miles and still has the original bearings.


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Kuzie
 
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Default Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! - 07-01-2004 , 01:36 PM



I have had 4 Cherokees (85, 87, 88 & 91) and 1 Grand Cherokee (95) all well
over
100K miles and never had a diff bearing problem. The 91 Cherokee has 180K
miles
and still runs great. These all had Dana 30 &35 axles though. Have changed
the diff
gear lube every 30K miles too.
Greg

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove (AT) frontier (DOT) net> wrote

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I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
three times.

Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
contamination and breakdown.
"Grumpy" <grumpy (AT) nothappy (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Are you the owner of a Jeep Grand Cherokee that did not live up to
expectations?



More directly, did your Jeep Grand Cherokee suffer a premature rear axle
bearing failure? Did you find your contacts with Chrysler Corporation
to
be
unproductive in getting assistance to pay for the repair?



I invite you to email your story, photos and receipts to



http://grandcherokeedefects.blogspot.com



All information will be turned over to a lawyer for possible class
action
status.



All information will be kept strictly confidential. Stories and photos
will
be shared to attract more owners of defective Grand Cherokees.



Check updates at



http://grandcherokeedefects.blogspot.com



Thank You








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Rob Munach
 
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Default Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! - 07-02-2004 , 05:10 AM



Jerry McG wrote:

Quote:
I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
three times.

Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
contamination and breakdown.
"Grumpy" <grumpy (AT) nothappy (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842 (AT) newssvr28 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...


My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.


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Kuzie
 
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Default Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! - 07-02-2004 , 03:36 PM



"Rob Munach" <xlengr (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote

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Jerry McG wrote:

I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for, any
towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked and
changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at least
three times.

Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
contamination and breakdown.
"Grumpy" <grumpy (AT) nothappy (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842 (AT) newssvr28 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...


My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.
So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
experience

engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
lubricants

per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame the

manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
without

a single differential problem.




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Jerry McG
 
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Default Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! - 07-02-2004 , 04:39 PM




"Kuzie" <greg.kuzmanich (AT) NOSPAMintel (DOT) com> wrote

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"Rob Munach" <xlengr (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Jerry McG wrote:

I hate to ask stupid questions, but what was that vehicle used for,
any
towing, heavy loads? Also, how often was the final drive oil checked
and
changed on that axle? At 90k miles it should have been changed at
least
three times.

Unfortunately what I see with a trained eye is the result of oil
contamination and breakdown.
"Grumpy" <grumpy (AT) nothappy (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:XGCEc.30723$eH1.14608842 (AT) newssvr28 (DOT) news.prodigy.com...


My brother-in-laws's was never used for towing or has ever been
off-road. I doubt the oil was ever changed in the rear, but *most*
people never change the diff. oil and still don't experience rear end
bearing problems.

So if I never change my engine oil or xmsn fluid or coolant I should not
experience

engine or xmsn problems either. Most conscientious owners change the
lubricants

per the maintenance schedule or close to it. If you don't...don't blame
the

manufacturer for poor quality. I have had 5 Jeeps all well over 100K
without

a single differential problem.
That was definitly caused by lubricant breakdown & reusltant metal
contamination. My hunch is it the vehicle was overloaded or got overstressed
towing something beyong its capacity. The giveaway is the scoring on the
outer axle bearings & the axle shafts.

FWIW, the Grand Cherokee factory maintenance schedule calls for 12k mile
differential fluid changes if it's used for towing & heavy loads (i.e.,
severe duty). It also calls for an 80w-140 lubricant in the rear axle in
those cases.

That thing had to be growlng like a pack of mad dogs for a long time, too.
Would have paid to look into it earlier.




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RPhillips47
 
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Default Re: Grand Cherokee Owners - Fight back!! - 07-03-2004 , 02:09 PM



Mike Romain wrote:

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Spoken like a true dealer tech!

LOL!

Man you 'sure' make mechanics look bad and make the point of the
stereotype sleaze ball rip off dealer mechanic with about every post you
make.
Were you here before the new Magnum R/T was introduced when he said it would
not sell at the rumored MSRP of less than $30,000 as Ford will be introducing
the V-8 Mustang GT for under $20,000???? He's a real piece of work and,
speaking of work, we are fortunate that he doesn't work on our vehicles!!!

RP


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