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Default Re: Points which so many miss - 10-20-2009 , 05:03 AM






In article <xm7Cm.80720$1s6.5984 (AT) twister2 (DOT) libero.it>,
Trendy <kjllkjsd (AT) jktl (DOT) it> wrote:

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I saw many comments on the ng and to me seems out of the actual motor
industry contest, with pride and prejudice against what could be the
last chance for chrysler.

a) Chrysler was an almost dead company. Cerberus had almost put to
death the company without any project or plan for the future
It's a miracle someone want make a try to save Chrysler with the world
of motors in such dire situtation, where make profits seems to be a mirage.
So were several auto companies almost dead. Their Gov saved them.
Chrysler's problem was bean counting Cerberus following thief Daimler.
Between them they stripped Chrysler bare and left no one in control.
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b)Marchionne has done a great work for fiat, this isn't an assurance he
can reply them in chrysler, but at least he's the right man for the
task. The prejudice for Marchionne is out of place.
Marchionne is OK as far as I can see.
The Fiat problem is lack of cars that would sell well here.
Now if Opel cars could be obtained, there would be hope.

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Default Re: Points which so many miss - 10-20-2009 , 04:19 PM






If Fiat has licked the quality problems -- not a sure thing -- they have the
larger Fiats and Alfa-Romeos (very stylish cars).

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The Fiat problem is lack of cars that would sell well here.
Now if Opel cars could be obtained, there would be hope.

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Default Re: Points which so many miss - 10-22-2009 , 01:59 AM



In article <4ADBBC1F.8BDBA7DF (AT) Man (DOT) com>, MoPar Man <MoPar (AT) Man (DOT) com>
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Chrysler does not need small-car technology - ESPECIALLY SMALL CAR
TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL TAKE 2.5 YEARS TO HIT THE SHOW ROOM AND BE MADE
MOSTLY IN ITALY AND MEXICO.
Chrysler can use Fiat's technology for improved fuel mileage, but I
agree Fiat's small cars will not fly here in NA.
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Chrysler needs a more economical sedan platform. Their current one is
too heavy and they have too many sedans offered only in RWD.
Right on, Chrysler has blown the mid sized FWD market they had a
significant chunk of.
That's what I was looking for over the previous two years, Chrysler
didn't have a product I desired. The first time Chrysler's products
didn't meet my needs since they came out with FWD many years ago.
The downturn was in 2005 when they came out with the 300 which sells to
a different market and has done well.

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Default Re: Points which so many miss - 10-22-2009 , 02:01 AM



In article <_NidnX-mocfOhkPXnZ2dnUVZ8nKdnZ2d (AT) pipex (DOT) net>,
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If Fiat has licked the quality problems -- not a sure thing -- they have the
larger Fiats and Alfa-Romeos (very stylish cars).
The price of those would make them competitive in the NA mid sized
market? I wouldn't even bother going to the dealer to see.

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Default Re: Points which so many miss - 10-22-2009 , 05:26 AM



Josh S ha scritto:

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That's what I was looking for over the previous two years, Chrysler
didn't have a product I desired. The first time Chrysler's products
didn't meet my needs since they came out with FWD many years ago.
The downturn was in 2005 when they came out with the 300 which sells to
a different market and has done well.
Marchionne has stopped all sedan for fiat, Lancia and Alfa because he
wants to make profits for every model and to do this looks for numbers,
like they have done with small cars. Fiat 500, Fiat Panda, Ford Ka are
all done in the same plant, with an impressive output (600.000 are
expected for 2009, with huges Economy of scale), all sharing the same
platform, engine, trasmission etc, he will do the same with the next
sedan for chrysler, Fiat and Alfa, one plant in the usa or Mexico, same
platform and engine and different badges.
Make profit is the only way to survuve

As for small cars, I agree they are not suitable in states, but low mpg
engines will be even more unsuitable .

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