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Default Re: Why does everyone say that Fiat is "buying" Chrysler??? - 06-09-2009 , 06:49 PM






MoPar Man wrote:
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So Fiat gets 3 seats on the board, the UAW gets one (and it can't
vote). How many voting seats in total does the new board have, and who
gets them?

BTW, I heard this morning that Fiat does not plan to walk away on June
15 if this deal isin't done by then.

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News Alert
7:24 PM EDT Tuesday, June 9, 2009

Supreme Court Clears Way for Sale of Chrysler to Fiat

High Court rejects delay sought by Indiana pension funds.

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Guess you can tear up those briefs...

Enter "Fiasco" -- Fiat/Chrysco

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Default Re: Why does everyone say that Fiat is "buying" Chrysler??? - 06-09-2009 , 08:21 PM






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News Alert
7:24 PM EDT Tuesday, June 9, 2009

Supreme Court Clears Way for Sale of Chrysler to Fiat

High Court rejects delay sought by Indiana pension funds.
If Fiat is "buying" Chrysler, then what are they paying for it?

What is the price?

And how many voting seats in total will the Chrysler board have?

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Default Re: Why does everyone say that Fiat is "buying" Chrysler??? - 06-10-2009 , 08:19 AM



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This is getting absurd! Every day a new report comes out and states
something entirely different than a day earlier. Yesterday a report on
CNN stated Fiat will start out with a 25% stake and could increase it to
35%. Today a report says up to 51%. I've also seen many other figures
stating how much the UAW has.

Doesn't really matter. The US Government seems to hold the power to
tell them what cars to make, which dealerships to close etc. The WH
should stay out of it. Sad day when the WH controls private industry.

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Default Re: Why does everyone say that Fiat is "buying" Chrysler??? - 06-10-2009 , 08:52 AM



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June 9 (Bloomberg) -- A group led by Fiat SpA will probably
complete its purchase of most Chrysler LLC assets tomorrow,
What is the price?

When you buy something, you usually have to give the seller some money.
There is something called a "price". It is a numerical quantity,
measured in terms of a local currency, usually preceeded with a
character such as "$".

I see no reference to a price in these stories regarding Fiat
"purchasing" Chrysler.

And how is all this sitting with Daimer? Not a peep out of them. ?

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Default Re: Why does everyone say that Fiat is "buying" Chrysler??? - 06-10-2009 , 11:58 AM



MoPar Man wrote:
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June 9 (Bloomberg) -- A group led by Fiat SpA will probably
complete its purchase of most Chrysler LLC assets tomorrow,

What is the price?

When you buy something, you usually have to give the seller some money.
There is something called a "price". It is a numerical quantity,
measured in terms of a local currency, usually preceeded with a
character such as "$".

I see no reference to a price in these stories regarding Fiat
"purchasing" Chrysler.

FIAT is willing to invest management's scarce time and attention.

Priceless.

And they may invest further over time to achieve a 51% stake.


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And how is all this sitting with Daimer? Not a peep out of them. ?

Screw Dr. Z, and Cerberus, too.

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Default Re: Why does everyone say that Fiat is "buying" Chrysler??? - 06-10-2009 , 11:59 AM



miles wrote:
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MoPar Man wrote:
News wrote:

This is getting absurd! Every day a new report comes out and states
something entirely different than a day earlier. Yesterday a report on
CNN stated Fiat will start out with a 25% stake and could increase it to
35%. Today a report says up to 51%. I've also seen many other figures
stating how much the UAW has.

Doesn't really matter. The US Government seems to hold the power to
tell them what cars to make, which dealerships to close etc. The WH
should stay out of it. Sad day when the WH controls private industry.

Worse days, most of the past eight years.

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Default Re: Why does everyone say that Fiat is "buying" Chrysler??? - 06-10-2009 , 01:24 PM



MoPar Man <MoPar (AT) Man (DOT) com> wrote in news:4A2FBA83.726C9027 (AT) Man (DOT) com:

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News wrote:

June 9 (Bloomberg) -- A group led by Fiat SpA will probably
complete its purchase of most Chrysler LLC assets tomorrow,

What is the price?

When you buy something, you usually have to give the seller some money.
There is something called a "price". It is a numerical quantity,
measured in terms of a local currency, usually preceeded with a
character such as "$".

I see no reference to a price in these stories regarding Fiat
"purchasing" Chrysler.

And how is all this sitting with Daimer? Not a peep out of them. ?
As I understand. . .Chrysler is not a public company so they don't have
to make puclic any info including what they are being sold for. But if
we the taxpayers are footing the bill, we should get some sort of info.

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Default Re: Why does everyone say that Fiat is "buying" Chrysler??? - 06-10-2009 , 11:36 PM



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Worse days, most of the past eight years.
Just wait. The current WH is on a roll to control private industry and
destroy capitalism. Government is a huge source of our problems and yet
people are willing to have them take even greater control. Government
is the problem, not the solution. The WH should not be calling the
shots and basically running auto manufactures. They have no clue how to
do so. Let the people decide what cars they wish manufactures to
produce rather than the WH dictate it.

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Default Re: Why does everyone say that Fiat is "buying" Chrysler??? - 06-11-2009 , 05:57 AM



miles wrote:
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Worse days, most of the past eight years.

Just wait.

Fine. Please wait with Cheney in your undisclosed, secure location.

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Default Re: Why does everyone say that Fiat is "buying" Chrysler??? - 06-15-2009 , 04:48 PM



In article <4A2FBA83.726C9027 (AT) Man (DOT) com>, MoPar Man <MoPar (AT) Man (DOT) com>
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News wrote:

June 9 (Bloomberg) -- A group led by Fiat SpA will probably
complete its purchase of most Chrysler LLC assets tomorrow,

What is the price?

When you buy something, you usually have to give the seller some money.
There is something called a "price". It is a numerical quantity,
measured in terms of a local currency, usually preceeded with a
character such as "$".

I see no reference to a price in these stories regarding Fiat
"purchasing" Chrysler.

And how is all this sitting with Daimer? Not a peep out of them. ?
It appears the price for Fiat is their sharing of their new
technologies, particularly their MultiAir engine technology, with the
New Chrysler.
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MultiAir system production announced
June 15th, 2009 by DaveAdmin

Fiat will be fitting the Alfa Romeo MiTo with MultiAir engines and a
start-stop system to increase gas mileage by shutting the fuel supply to the
engine when the car is stopped, and seamlessly restarting the engine when
needed. The 1.4 liter engine will be available in 105, 135, and 170
horsepower versions.

MultiAir engines have 10% more horsepower and 15% more torque than standard
gasoline engines of the same design; they also reduce particulates and
nitrides of oxygen dramatically.

MultiAir is a trademark for an electro-hydraulic valve control system
currently used on gasoline engines, and planned for Fiat diesel engines.

Fiat is planning to share key technologies with Chrysler in the near term,
and MultiAir is very likely to make it to mid-sized Chrysler Group vehicles
as well as Fiats sold in the US (regardless of branding).

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