The Supreme Kourt has spoken. Carbon dioxide is now classified as
pollution. It is a greenhouse gas. All greenhouse emitters are polluters.
Your dog is a greenhouse gas emitter. Therefore, your dog or cat is a
source of polution. Expect Kalifornia to be first among the several states
to exterminate your pets, starting with po'r folks' mongrels and working
their way gradually up the food chain.

Come to think about it, politicians are greenhouse emitters, also. I
imagine there will be an exemption in the law for them, but I'm not too
sure about us.

In article <1b2c8d1765e13a1d3a158f428a773dbf (AT) mixmaster (DOT) it>,
George Orwell <nobody (AT) mixmaster (DOT) it> wrote:

Right on, too much gas from all politicians!
Too many big company leaders are also like politicians.

George Orwell wrote:

I suspect one thing that will be affected or even outlawed is, as you
mentioned, the food chain. The bovine cow (your source of hamburgers,
steaks, meat, etc) is a huge producer of carbon dioxide and methane
gas. My prediction is that California will outlaw the single animals
and herds and a few other communist states will follow. Soon ALL beef
will be produced in other countries. Soon our food will be higher than
it is in Japan.

"George Orwell" <nobody (AT) mixmaster (DOT) it> wrote

Lots of people have blamed it on the dog;>)

Homo sapiens is the only species which has ever mined fossil reserves and
substantially changed the atmospheric composition. We are, perhaps,
God's most advanced and least successful of all his creatures.

Kruse wrote:
Hah! And then the same people who dreamed up the original non-problem
(environmental damage from cows farting) and created the real problem
(jobs moving offshore) will find some way to blame everyone but
themselves for "jobs moving overseas".

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

<HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix> wrote in news:8mCQh.13439$Um6.4486
@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net:

well, i guess, if you look at yourself that way? God bless you anyway. i
just dont have a guilt complex..............now when they stop ALL the
volcanoes from venting, and of course all the cows from flatulating, all
the whores from belching and everyone on earth holding their breath for 5
decades they can take a fresh reading and see where we need to go from
there. until then internal combustion is THE way to go!..............BTW:
homo sapiens are ALSO the only species, so far, that had the ability to
use fossil fuels as an energy source...............im sorry you dont feel
you are part of a 'successful' experiment. luckily, I
DO!..................kjun
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"Kjun" <KjunRaven (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

I dont have a guilt complex either. I feel that I try to behave rather
responsibly.

Every now and again, I just love a feed of beer and pickled eggs.... That
would probably put me far ahead of Rover in the "tailpipe emissions"
department....

Come to think of it, I'm a real bad actor....

Here in Alberta, we have a huge coal fired generating station and my house
can gobble electricity at an alarming rate.... I'm beating the crap out of a
lot of electrons just writing this....

And other fossil fuels.... No cars in our immediate family but three
trucks - all of them 4X4s.... We get "pump island shock" on a regular
basis... and my gas BBQ.... damn near as big as a hall closet....

On our frosty Alberta winter nights, there's nothing like a crackling wood
fire in the hearth..... ever wonder how much carbon is released into the air
with a toasty wood fire??? And, on our balmy (for us) Alberta summer
evenings, a crackling wood fire in the campsite can help keep bugs away....
ever wonder how much carbon is released into the air with a toasty wood
fire?

We needn't change our life styles..... all we need to do is to refrain from
defeating the emissions controls on our vehicles, keep them in a good state
of repair and to live our lives as if there was, indeed, a tomorrow...

Georgie-girl... you are such a waste of oxygen....

"Jim Warman" <mechanic (AT) telusplanet (DOT) net> wrote

And, on our balmy (for us) Alberta summer
From the time of the cavemen, burning a wood fire never materially
influenced the environment.
The oceans and forests were able to maintain equilibrium with the carbon by
taking it out of the
atmosphere and returning it as plant growth.

It was when men started taking fixed fossil deposits out of the earth and
burning them at enormous
rates that the environment may have lost the ability to maintain the
equilibrium.

We need more than operational emission controls.

HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix wrote:

CONSIDER:
Al Gore's house uses 20 times the electricity of the average American
home. His solution to the problem is to set up some environmental
clearing house to which you could pay big indulgences to lower your
"carbon foot print" score.

CONSIDER:
In March of this year, at the University of Washington, the "Associate
State Climatologist" was stripped of his title by the "State
Climatologist" because the former distributed emails to colleagues
questioning a report that the snowpack in the Cascade mountains had
decreased 50% in the last 50 years. The Associate Climatologist had
reviewed the data and discovered that the fraudulent calculation was
done by looking at the numbers for each year (with its normal
variations) and picking the one point (in mathematics, called a local
peak, or maxima) about 50 years ago that had the absolute highest
snowpak measurement that had occurred (even though the normal variatons
gave much lower numbers in years preceeding that particular year) and
using the absolute lowest number (a "local minima) in recent years (even
though much higher numbers had occurred in later years). "I'm not
trying to squelch debate by any means," Mote (the State Climatologist)
said. "Obviously we're going to use whatever number the scientists at UW
say is accurate," Nickels (mayor of Seattle) spokesman Marty McOmber
said. (ref:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...arming15m.html)

The left is so absolutely FOS on this issue that it would be funny if it
weren't dangerous.

You guys get the nut jobs out of your ranks, and people might just start
listening to you if you can make your case in a sane manner - which at
this point appears doubtful (becaue your arguments have no credibility).
Since you can't make credible arguments without faking the data,
people are hopefully going to believe the valid and credible arguments
against your case.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')