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Default Re: 40 years of the Ford Transit... - 07-19-2005 , 05:55 AM






"K.Shilcock" <K.Shilcock (AT) lboro (DOT) ac.uk> wrote in news:dbih2i$re9$1@sun-
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If its the same unit that's fitted to Saab 96 v4s (the german built v4),
then it seems a fine powerplant and sounds great. Maybe its down to the
application?

Just seems a little small for use in a van the size of a Transit.

I agree it was a fine powerplant (also used in Corsair). Inherant imbalance
of a V4 meant they had to fit balancer shafts so it was very smooth.

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Default Re: 40 years of the Ford Transit... - 07-19-2005 , 06:04 AM






Richard Polhill (richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

Quote:
If its the same unit that's fitted to Saab 96 v4s (the german built
v4), then it seems a fine powerplant and sounds great. Maybe its down
to the application?

Just seems a little small for use in a van the size of a Transit.

I agree it was a fine powerplant (also used in Corsair). Inherant
imbalance of a V4 meant they had to fit balancer shafts so it was very
smooth.
I don't think it was the same engine.

The Saab/Corsair lump was 1.7, the Tranny/Capri lump was 2.0.

Not in itself damning proof, but IIRC they were different. This would tend
to agree :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_engines


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Default Re: 40 years of the Ford Transit... - 07-19-2005 , 06:37 AM



In article <dbih2i$re9$1 (AT) sun-cc204 (DOT) lut.ac.uk>,
K.Shilcock <K.Shilcock@lborodotacdotuk> wrote:
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"Andy Dingley" <dingbat (AT) codesmiths (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:24:54 +0100, ":::Jerry::::" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net
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I know the Ford V4 and York engines weren't the best designed units
but are they really this bad?...

No, they're _much_ worse.

There just aren't the words to describe how appallingly bad either of
those engines was.

If its the same unit that's fitted to Saab 96 v4s (the german built v4),
then it seems a fine powerplant and sounds great. Maybe its down to the
application?
It's not the same engine. The Transit (and, IIRC, the Corsair)
had the 4-cyl derivative of the Essex V6, which was fit only for
use as an anchor weight. The SAAB used the entirely different
Cologne V4, as fitted to the Taunus of the day.

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Default Re: 40 years of the Ford Transit... - 07-19-2005 , 07:38 AM



In article <dbih2i$re9$1 (AT) sun-cc204 (DOT) lut.ac.uk>,
K.Shilcock <K.Shilcock (AT) lboro (DOT) ac.uk> wrote:
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If its the same unit that's fitted to Saab 96 v4s (the german built v4),
then it seems a fine powerplant and sounds great.
It's not.

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Default Re: 40 years of the Ford Transit... - 07-19-2005 , 07:49 AM



I think the two engines are the same, just minor differances, obviously one
being capacity.

"Adrian" <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Richard Polhill (richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

If its the same unit that's fitted to Saab 96 v4s (the german built
v4), then it seems a fine powerplant and sounds great. Maybe its down
to the application?

Just seems a little small for use in a van the size of a Transit.

I agree it was a fine powerplant (also used in Corsair). Inherant
imbalance of a V4 meant they had to fit balancer shafts so it was very
smooth.

I don't think it was the same engine.

The Saab/Corsair lump was 1.7, the Tranny/Capri lump was 2.0.

Not in itself damning proof, but IIRC they were different. This would tend
to agree :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_engines



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Default Re: 40 years of the Ford Transit... - 07-19-2005 , 08:58 AM




"Adrian" <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Richard Polhill (richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

If its the same unit that's fitted to Saab 96 v4s (the german built
v4), then it seems a fine powerplant and sounds great. Maybe its down
to the application?

Just seems a little small for use in a van the size of a Transit.

I agree it was a fine powerplant (also used in Corsair). Inherant
imbalance of a V4 meant they had to fit balancer shafts so it was very
smooth.

I don't think it was the same engine.

The Saab/Corsair lump was 1.7, the Tranny/Capri lump was 2.0.

Not in itself damning proof, but IIRC they were different. This would tend
to agree :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_engines
my saab 96 v4 has a 1.5 lump..
it doesnt hang about (for a 30 year old car) but i can imagine that even
with an extra few cc, the aerodynamics and weight would make response very
sluggish in comparison in a transit.




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Default Re: 40 years of the Ford Transit... - 07-19-2005 , 09:03 AM



In article <42dce8be$1_3 (AT) mk-nntp-2 (DOT) news.uk.tiscali.com>, Barspeed1975
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I think the two engines are the same,
Which two engines?

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Default Re: 40 years of the Ford Transit... - 07-19-2005 , 10:13 AM



"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" <me8 (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in
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Which two engines?

Probably the ones mentioned in the post he quoted.

But it would have been better to post below the quote.

Rich

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Default Re: 40 years of the Ford Transit... - 07-19-2005 , 10:39 AM



In article <42dce8be$1_3 (AT) mk-nntp-2 (DOT) news.uk.tiscali.com>,
Barspeed1975 <barspeed (AT) hutmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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I think the two engines are the same, just minor differances, obviously
one being capacity.
Well, all engines are the same apart from minor differences.

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Default Re: 40 years of the Ford Transit... - 07-19-2005 , 12:17 PM



Yeah but the Capri never had a V4.
You had the Transit V4 1700 and the Corsair Deluxe V4 1700, then you had a
2litre Transit but you also had the Corsair 2000E, which had a larger V4
engine. Transits from about 1970 had a Pinto engine, which would be
available in 1600 and 2000 forms and then you had the Deisel with the piggy
snout.

"Richard Polhill" <richard.news (AT) polhill (DOT) vispa.invalid> wrote

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"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" <me8 (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in
news:ant191306b49dVpW (AT) office (DOT) ajlelectronics.co.uk:

Which two engines?

Probably the ones mentioned in the post he quoted.

But it would have been better to post below the quote.

Rich

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