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Default Re: Advice re attaching Traveller to trailer, for long journey! - 08-09-2006 , 01:59 AM







"Graeme" <Graeme (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote

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In message <MPG.1f3e7495f7df15b698d302 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net>, Conor
conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes
In article <HgbWAzz7860EFwoH (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk>, Graeme says...

My idea is to coach bolt a couple of four by four fence posts to the
trailer bed, one hard up against the front wheels, the other ditto the
rear wheels, then a couple of ratchet straps, one over the rear axle,
the other through the vehicle doors.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Jesus H Christ

OK, I get the message :-)

You should place the ratchet straps over the tyres.

Thank you. I'd like to do the job properly (and safely) - any advice on
exactly how to secure the straps over the tyres would be appreciated.
Should I have special straps to go over the wheels/tyres?
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Graeme
No guarantee as to quality but I believe Machine Mart supply these tie down
straps

PhilC




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Simon H
 
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Default Re: Advice re attaching Traveller to trailer, for long journey! - 08-09-2006 , 05:35 AM







"PhilC" <rascas (AT) talktalk (DOT) net> wrote

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"Graeme" <Graeme (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Vf4i$fA$VJ2EFwoV (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk...
In message <MPG.1f3e7495f7df15b698d302 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net>, Conor
conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes
In article <HgbWAzz7860EFwoH (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk>, Graeme says...

My idea is to coach bolt a couple of four by four fence posts to the
trailer bed, one hard up against the front wheels, the other ditto the
rear wheels, then a couple of ratchet straps, one over the rear axle,
the other through the vehicle doors.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Jesus H Christ

OK, I get the message :-)

You should place the ratchet straps over the tyres.

Thank you. I'd like to do the job properly (and safely) - any advice on
exactly how to secure the straps over the tyres would be appreciated.
Should I have special straps to go over the wheels/tyres?
--
Graeme

No guarantee as to quality but I believe Machine Mart supply these tie
down
straps

PhilC


All the above is excellent advice. However, in addition to all that you need
a sound trailer to attach all that kit to. Is a converted caravan chassis up
to the job? Has the conversion been done 'properly'? Or did they just cut
off the cravan body and leave the floor as it was? Could be well dodgy...

Simon H




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Default Re: Advice re attaching Traveller to trailer, for long journey! - 08-26-2006 , 03:30 PM



In message <Bv6dnUpyUPm2NEXZRVnyvg (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Badger
<brianhatton (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> writes
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You can get special loops that you feed over ratchet straps, just look at
what any of the professional recovery boys use.
Try googling for "recovery equipment direct", they have an excellent online
catalogue.
Thanks to EVERYONE who commented. All comments were noted, and a visit
to the above site explained exactly what I needed.

Drove down to collect the car Thursday, loaded yesterday and returned
today. 475 miles each way. Long journeys, particularly the return
(M11, A14, A1, A68, A720, M8, M90, A93), and I am glad it is over!
What did I overlook? Yes, the rear brakes were seized, which was a
pain, but remedied.

Quote:
NEVER apply the
handbrake or put an auto in Park on any vehicle being transported on a
trailer, secure using only the straps mentioned above.
Noted - but would be interested to know why.
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Default Re: Advice re attaching Traveller to trailer, for long journey! - 08-28-2006 , 02:13 PM



On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:30:03 UTC, News <news (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk>
wrote:

: In message <Bv6dnUpyUPm2NEXZRVnyvg (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Badger
: <brianhatton (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> writes

: > NEVER apply the
: >handbrake or put an auto in Park on any vehicle being transported on a
: >trailer, secure using only the straps mentioned above.
:
: Noted - but would be interested to know why.

I'd be interested too. My DS has done it's fair share of
transporter-borne miles, and on every occasion the recovery chap has
asked me to make sure that she is in gear with the handbrake on.

Ian
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Default Re: Advice re attaching Traveller to trailer, for long journey! - 08-29-2006 , 04:22 AM



Ian Johnston (ian.groups (AT) btinternet (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

Quote:
: > NEVER apply the
: >handbrake or put an auto in Park on any vehicle being transported on a
: >trailer, secure using only the straps mentioned above.

: Noted - but would be interested to know why.

I'd be interested too. My DS has done it's fair share of
transporter-borne miles, and on every occasion the recovery chap has
asked me to make sure that she is in gear with the handbrake on.
When I trailered the Ami up to an event a couple of months ago, I *forgot*
to put the handbrake on and leave it in gear - and even with all four
wheels securely ratchet-strapped using proper wheel straps, it moved about
on the trailer far too much for my liking.

On the way back, it was handbrake/gear, and stayed firmly put.


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Default Re: Advice re attaching Traveller to trailer, for long journey! - 08-29-2006 , 07:20 AM




"Adrian" <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Ian Johnston (ian.groups (AT) btinternet (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding
much
like they were saying :

: > NEVER apply the
: >handbrake or put an auto in Park on any vehicle being transported
on a
: >trailer, secure using only the straps mentioned above.

: Noted - but would be interested to know why.

I'd be interested too. My DS has done it's fair share of
transporter-borne miles, and on every occasion the recovery chap has
asked me to make sure that she is in gear with the handbrake on.
I've never come across the advice not to put the handbrake on, and I
always do so when there's a working handbrake. The only reference I've
ever seen to auto box cars on trailers was in the handbook for an XJS,
which warned against putting it in "Park", without giving a reason. I
can only guess it's something to do with the car shuffling backwards and
forwards and thus subjecting the parking pawl to repeated loads, but
that doesn't sound very convincing. IIRC on some Shadows the Park
position engages automatically when you stop the engine, so it's a good
job I've never been asked to shift one of them.


Quote:
When I trailered the Ami up to an event a couple of months ago, I
*forgot*
to put the handbrake on and leave it in gear - and even with all four
wheels securely ratchet-strapped using proper wheel straps, it moved
about
on the trailer far too much for my liking.

Difficult to see how it could move, if the straps were being used
properly. Possible if the attachment points for both ends of each strap
are too close to the wheel, I suppose. I do find the Bateson trailer
reassuring, though: it has sides, a tailgate, and adjustable scotches,
so there's a backup system in place.


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Default Re: Advice re attaching Traveller to trailer, for long journey! - 08-29-2006 , 10:02 AM




"Autolycus" <mar2006 (AT) mainbeam (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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I've never come across the advice not to put the handbrake on, and I
always do so when there's a working handbrake. The only reference I've
ever seen to auto box cars on trailers was in the handbook for an XJS,
which warned against putting it in "Park", without giving a reason. I can
only guess it's something to do with the car shuffling backwards and
forwards and thus subjecting the parking pawl to repeated loads, but that
doesn't sound very convincing.
Maybe with all the to-ing and fro-ing the transmission can get stuck in
"Park"?

Ron Robinson



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Default Re: Advice re attaching Traveller to trailer, for long journey! - 08-30-2006 , 07:36 AM



We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Autolycus"
<mar2006 (AT) mainbeam (DOT) co.uk> saying something like:

Quote:
The only reference I've
ever seen to auto box cars on trailers was in the handbook for an XJS,
which warned against putting it in "Park", without giving a reason. I
can only guess it's something to do with the car shuffling backwards and
forwards and thus subjecting the parking pawl to repeated loads, but
that doesn't sound very convincing.
Makes sense to me, having once stripped a parking pawl on an XJ12 by
slinging it into P just as it rolled to a stop.
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Dave
SE6a


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