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Re: car registration -
02-22-2007
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I don't recall any such TV campaign, at least not one that covered pre-sorn vehicles. |
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They should have been auto-sent on taxing or SORNing a couple of years ago. "You only need to declare SORN for a vehicle that had a tax in force on or after 31 January 1998. There is no charge for declaring SORN." |
SORNed/taxed...
But there was enough leafletage with the V5Cs that DID come through, and
enough mention on here and other corners of the 'net.
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On 22 Feb 2007 07:01:09 GMT, Ian Johnston <ian.groups (AT) btinternet (DOT) com wrote: I've just had a look at the DVLA website, and I can't see anything there which says either (a) that we need to apply for new documents for old cars or (b) how to do it. Can you give any leads on this? I have a Herald which has been off-road since before SORN ... If the car was not taxed since before SORN was a requirement (1998?) then there is no need to SORN the car. You can get a V5C from by going to your DVLA office with the old V5. They'll take it from you and send you a new one. If you don't "upgrade" to a V5C, then the DVLA won't just assume the car no longer exists and delete the records. On their records you are still held as the current owner, it is just that the document no longer becomes valid so you cannot sell (etc) the car. |
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I would however, recommend getting the document changed. The confusion about the records being deleted probably comes from the last document changeover - when the DVLA computer system was introduced between 1974 and 1984. After 1984, old RF60 logbooks could no longer be exchanged for a "new" V5 and the car had to be re-registered as a "new" (but used) vehicle. The rules changed again in 1991-ish, allowing owners to register their cars if the RF60 was in existance. Any such cars would be reallocated with their original registration, but as non-transferrable. The car would also have to undergo a through inspection to ensure that it was indeed the actual car and not a logbook rebuild! |
it's a chassis-up rebuild on a replacement chassis!
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New to the group...Just a query .....I have bought an old BMW 1987 great car, not taxed or tested but a project.....now I have tried to register the car in my name but got a letter back from DVLA saying they cannot send a new registration doc. because there is a change to the rate of tax, (the lady who owned it had it on a diability tax) You need to insure the car (obviously) and get it MoT'd. Then go to your local DVLA office with the documents and they will sort it out there and then. You will get a new tax disk, and they will post you an amended V5C registration document. What? Spend time and money on a car that's still registered to someone else? What happens when the previous owner gets a tax/SORN reminder and ticks the box to declare the car scrapped to keep the DVLA off their back? |
you scrapped the car *YOURSELF*. You should easily pass a Vehicle Identity
Check, if it comes to that.
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New to the group...Just a query .....I have bought an old BMW 1987 great car, not taxed or tested but a project.....now I have tried to register the car in my name but got a letter back from DVLA saying they cannot send a new registration doc. |
Why are YOU trying to change the name on the V5? It's the seller's
responsibility to send it off, not yours. You just get the "It's now mine"
slip.
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Ian Johnston (ian.groups (AT) btinternet (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : I've just had a look at the DVLA website, and I can't see anything there which says either (a) that we need to apply for new documents for old cars or (b) how to do it. Can you give any leads on this? I have a Herald which has been off-road since before SORN ... http://snipurl.com/1az94 They should have been auto-sent on taxing or SORNing a couple of years ago. |
good idea if we are thinking of selling. And cars which haven't been taxed
or SORNed won't have had the new one.
So, since I'm not going to be taxing my Herald for another year or so, is
it worth me paying good cash for a V5C?
Ian
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The message <544tdlF1uoabfU7 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net from Ian Johnston <ian.groups (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> contains these words: I've just had a look at the DVLA website, and I can't see anything there which says either (a) that we need to apply for new documents for old cars or (b) how to do it. Can you give any leads on this? I have a Herald which has been off-road since before SORN ... Just ask them. They changed mine without any problems after I complained. |
seem as if I have to ...
Ian
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They should have been auto-sent on taxing or SORNing a couple of years ago. Ah. So we don't actually /have/ to have on, it's just that it might be a good idea if we are thinking of selling. And cars which haven't been taxed or SORNed won't have had the new one. |
wholesale move to V5Cs is to remove the long-dead stuff from the database.
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So, since I'm not going to be taxing my Herald for another year or so, is it worth me paying good cash for a V5C? |
V5C for it.
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Just ask them. They changed mine without any problems after I complained. Thanks. However, I still can't see why I'd want to do this, and it doesn't seem as if I have to ... |
everyone who needed a V5C ample time to apply for one and henceforth it
will cost more than the price of a postage stamp or, worse, you have now
been officially stuffed.
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Roger Chapman
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"Adrian" <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:Xns98E17475CBCDAadrianachapmanfreeis (AT) 204 (DOT) 153.245.131... Pam Cook (pam_c25 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : New to the group...Just a query .....I have bought an old BMW 1987 great car, not taxed or tested but a project.....now I have tried to register the car in my name but got a letter back from DVLA saying they cannot send a new registration doc. Something's just popped into my brain on this... Why are YOU trying to change the name on the V5? It's the seller's responsibility to send it off, not yours. You just get the "It's now mine" slip. because there is no 'it's now mine slip'..... the previous owner sent the reg. doc. in to change the taxation class, and the DVLA, in it's wisdom, tore the doc. in half and only returned the front page and put red lines thru' the 'new keeper's details' part.....and wrote that they regret they cannot send a new reg. doc. because the changes she was notifying them of, altered the rate of duty payable...and she must first license the vehicle, and get a disc showing the new details...which , as i said is not possible at the moment...and the vehicle has a new keeper...me... which we cannot register..I'm at a loss to know what to do...... pam Do you have a receipt from the seller signed & dated? If not contact |
sign it. Keep it very safe. Then write to the DVLA via registered post,
not recorded explaining the situation to them, preferably to the person
who sent you the letter. Note that the vehicle is a restoration project,
it is not fit to be MOT'd & will not be for some time, tell them that
the vehicle will not be SORN as their system does not allow it to be. It
will however not be used on the public road at any time & they are free
to come inspect it at any time convenient time by prior arrangement. Out
the ball back into their court. If you take it to it's ultimate &
logical conclusion & they tried to take you to court for none declaring
of SORN & or not paying the fine then no magistrate in their right mind
would uphold the judgement, if you can prove you have tried to do the
correct & proper thing.
I am not a lawyer so all of this could garbage, but it is the way I
would proceed.
Alan...
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Pam Cook (pam_c25 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : New to the group...Just a query .....I have bought an old BMW 1987 great car, not taxed or tested but a project.....now I have tried to register the car in my name but got a letter back from DVLA saying they cannot send a new registration doc. Something's just popped into my brain on this... Why are YOU trying to change the name on the V5? It's the seller's responsibility to send it off, not yours. You just get the "It's now mine" slip. |
because there is no 'it's now mine slip'..... the previous owner sent the
reg. doc. in to change the taxation class, and the DVLA, in it's wisdom,
tore the doc. in half and only returned the front page and put red lines
thru' the 'new keeper's details' part.....and wrote that they regret they
cannot send a new reg. doc. because the changes she was notifying them of,
altered the rate of duty payable...and she must first license the vehicle,
and get a disc showing the new details...which , as i said is not possible
at the moment...and the vehicle has a new keeper...me... which we cannot
register..I'm at a loss to know what to do......
pam
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