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Default Re: DPDT Relays needed - 12-28-2006 , 10:42 AM






In article <1167264346.239657.273650 (AT) f1g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Andy
Dingley <dingbat (AT) codesmiths (DOT) com> says...
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Steve Firth wrote:

TBH after a few seconds I got bored of looking at all the DPDT 30A 12V
relay packages available.

I'm not surprised - you could have read the ones that were posted
yesterday -- But there still aren't any in the standard vehicle 5-blade
package, despite Conor suggesting Maplin and your especially helpful
suggestion of a trans-Atlantic hot-tub supplier.

So go do a bit of basic electronics then. I can do it without any
problem and seeing as I'm just a thick shit lorry driver, kind of makes
you look bad doesn't it?



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Default Re: DPDT Relays needed - 12-28-2006 , 10:44 AM






In article <1hc0ffjb6daz.12nkrkesuv2mh.dlg (AT) 40tude (DOT) net>, Steve Firth
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On 27 Dec 2006 16:05:46 -0800, Andy Dingley <dingbat (AT) codesmiths (DOT) com> wrote:

I'm not surprised - you could have read the ones that were posted
yesterday -- But there still aren't any in the standard vehicle 5-blade
package

So what? The OP didn't ask for a particular package and all the relays
referred to are suitable for automotive use.

They're thick as shit Steve. If it doesn't plug directly into what they
want it to, they're fucked. Absolutely fucking clueless clowns. God
help them if they actually had to make or modify something.

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Default Re: DPDT Relays needed - 12-28-2006 , 10:44 AM



In article <4e9c0c61b7dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
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In article <MPG.1ffce4668498da1e989862 (AT) news (DOT) karoo.co.uk>,
Conor <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
A 30A one can be found at such places as Maplins or RS Components.

30 amp DPDT with a 12 volt coil? Not from Maplin.


What the fuck did I say? Such places as, meaning "along the lines of".

If you're going to say they can be found there at least do the homework.
Most people who know what a DPDT relay is will know of the existence of
maplin and RS.

Apparently not otherwise they'd have found them at RS.


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Default Re: DPDT Relays needed - 12-28-2006 , 12:43 PM



In article <MPG.1ffe04dc436cf336989876 (AT) news (DOT) karoo.co.uk>,
Conor <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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If you're going to say they can be found there at least do the
homework. Most people who know what a DPDT relay is will know of the
existence of maplin and RS.

Apparently not otherwise they'd have found them at RS.
Care to give the part number of one you consider suitable?

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Default Re: DPDT Relays needed - 12-28-2006 , 05:18 PM



In article <4e9c6fcdcddave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News)
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In article <MPG.1ffe04dc436cf336989876 (AT) news (DOT) karoo.co.uk>,
Conor <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
If you're going to say they can be found there at least do the
homework. Most people who know what a DPDT relay is will know of the
existence of maplin and RS.

Apparently not otherwise they'd have found them at RS.

Care to give the part number of one you consider suitable?

Why? Are you incapable of reading or do you not understand a product
datasheet?

RS Stock no. 376-880

But as there are SPST solutions up to 70A that'll fit in a standard
automotive 5 terminal relay socket, it seems a bit daft.



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Default Re: DPDT Relays needed - 12-29-2006 , 07:36 AM



Thanks for all the responses. Yes I really do need 30A well ok 25A.
It's a common problem with electric windows on 70's Italian cars. You
can build a relayed circuit to reduce the length of the ground wire
which significantly speeds the motors up.

I couldn't find any cheap DPST or DPDT relays so I doubled up and used 4
SPDT relays from Maplin (£2 each) to replace 2 DPST. It fixed my problem.

I did need 25A to be sure I'd handle the motor current. The motors are
fused with a 25A fuse so I figured it would be best to go for that rating.

thanks

Lee

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Default Re: DPDT Relays needed - 12-29-2006 , 08:22 AM



In article <5PSdnXHqappbhAjYRVnyugA (AT) bt (DOT) com>,
Lee Griffiths <l.s.griffiths (AT) salford (DOT) ac.uk> wrote:
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Thanks for all the responses. Yes I really do need 30A well ok 25A.
It's a common problem with electric windows on 70's Italian cars. You
can build a relayed circuit to reduce the length of the ground wire
which significantly speeds the motors up.
But you don't need a DPDT relay for electric windows - two SPDT are the
norm. If you contact me (observe spam trap at bottom of post) I'll mail
you a circuit diagram of the common way.

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Default Re: DPDT Relays needed - 12-29-2006 , 09:11 AM




Lee Griffiths wrote:

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You
can build a relayed circuit to reduce the length of the ground wire
which significantly speeds the motors up.
I'd be interested to see details of this ('cause I don't believe it for
a minute).

If the relays are in the door (usually luxury cars only, which probably
includes any Italian car that had electric wondows in the '70s), then
adding a decent earth strap across the hinge is often useful.

You don't need to run a ground to the motors though, because the usual
circuit is a reversible motor between two SPDT relays switching each
end of the motor from ground to +12V. Close one relay at a time for up
or down. If there's no good earth at the relays then you could do with
adding one. They'll usually be under the dash though and already have a
good earth. I can't see why running an earth near the motors helps
though.



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Default Re: DPDT Relays needed - 12-31-2006 , 06:07 AM



In article <5PSdnXHqappbhAjYRVnyugA (AT) bt (DOT) com>,
Lee Griffiths <l.s.griffiths (AT) salford (DOT) ac.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Thanks for all the responses. Yes I really do need 30A well ok 25A.
It's a common problem with electric windows on 70's Italian cars. You
can build a relayed circuit to reduce the length of the ground wire
which significantly speeds the motors up.
Did you get the diagram I sent you in response to your e-mail?

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Default Re: DPDT Relays needed - 01-03-2007 , 09:30 AM



Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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In article <5PSdnXHqappbhAjYRVnyugA (AT) bt (DOT) com>,
Lee Griffiths <l.s.griffiths (AT) salford (DOT) ac.uk> wrote:
Thanks for all the responses. Yes I really do need 30A well ok 25A.
It's a common problem with electric windows on 70's Italian cars. You
can build a relayed circuit to reduce the length of the ground wire
which significantly speeds the motors up.

Did you get the diagram I sent you in response to your e-mail?

Hi Dave,

Yes thanks, sorry for not replying earlier.

Looks good to me, so I'm going to try it out as I have a bunch of SPDT
relays hanging about

Lee


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