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Default Re: Fibreglass panel repairer needed - 07-30-2006 , 03:20 AM






Dean Dark <ddrake (AT) comcast (DOT) notthis.net> wrote:

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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:06:08 +0100, steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk (SteveH)
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It was my dad's area of expertise (most bus bodies are
fibreglass) - they could never get a panel to look as good as new once
it had been split or punctured.

Oh well, if your dad says so then that must be it then.
35 years experience of dealing with fibreglass. Is that not enough?
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Default Re: Fibreglass panel repairer needed - 07-30-2006 , 05:31 AM






In article <QKadnfEbTtH7elbZRVnyiQ (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Ian says...
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"Conor" <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f35e988d41cf73c98d28f (AT) news (DOT) individual.net...

And yet again thick irish shite conor talks utter crap.............



One of the jobs I did many years ago was as a trimmer/finisher at a GRP
company, Beck Engineering.

http://www.beckplastics.co.uk/

If you go along Bridlington Seafront and see some cash booths in an
"Alladin" stylee, they're mine. I assume they're still there but as
it's 18 years ago since I did them. maybe not.


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Default Re: Fibreglass panel repairer needed - 07-30-2006 , 05:32 AM



In article <1154246248.408126.235610 (AT) 75g2000cwc (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Ian
says...
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Ian wrote:
"Conor" <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f35e988d41cf73c98d28f (AT) news (DOT) individual.net...

And yet again thick irish shite conor talks utter crap.............

Just in case anyone was mislead, that was another Ian, not me.

S'OK, I figured because you know I'm not Irish...




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Default Re: Fibreglass panel repairer needed - 07-30-2006 , 05:37 AM



In article <cCUlhtvFIYkV-pn2-
mrCxrGydpdQm (AT) internal (DOT) RFC...lecomplete.net>, Ian Johnston says...

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I'm pretty sure it will repair fine in expert hands - it's a
comparitively clean break across the whole width, with a damge band
hardly more than a couple of inches across. Having seen what can be
done by way of repairs to GRP gliders, it's not a bad candidate for
mending ... as long as someone good does it. Which might mean, I
suppose, taking it to a GRP glider menders, but yes, that would
probably cost a lot more than the 300 quid a new panel costs. On the
other hand, we then have to get a new panel to fit ...

There'll be no questioning the strength of the repair but it's the
finish. It'll be extremely time consuming to get a completely invisible
repair on old fibreglass.

You'd be looking at a good weeks worth of labour costs no matter who
you take it to. For example, on splash trays for Bridgeport CNC
machines, even when I was doing 200+ per week, if there was one with an
air bubble in the gel coat or where the seams were, it'd take a good
hour or more to finish to an invisible repair. And that's for a hole a
couple of mm wide.

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Default Re: Fibreglass panel repairer needed - 07-30-2006 , 05:39 AM



On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:20:15 +0100, steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk (SteveH)
wrote:

Quote:
Dean Dark <ddrake (AT) comcast (DOT) notthis.net> wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:06:08 +0100, steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk (SteveH)
wrote:

It was my dad's area of expertise (most bus bodies are
fibreglass) - they could never get a panel to look as good as new once
it had been split or punctured.

Oh well, if your dad says so then that must be it then.

35 years experience of dealing with fibreglass. Is that not enough?
Like I said. Your dad says so. We have the definitive answer to the
question.


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Default Re: Fibreglass panel repairer needed - 07-30-2006 , 06:01 AM



In article <MPG.1f369acc2f9de70398d291 (AT) news (DOT) individual.net>, Conor
says...
Quote:
In article <QKadnfEbTtH7elbZRVnyiQ (AT) bt (DOT) com>, Ian says...

"Conor" <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f35e988d41cf73c98d28f (AT) news (DOT) individual.net...

And yet again thick irish shite conor talks utter crap.............



One of the jobs I did many years ago was as a trimmer/finisher at a GRP
company, Beck Engineering.

http://www.beckplastics.co.uk/

If you go along Bridlington Seafront and see some cash booths in an
"Alladin" stylee, they're mine. I assume they're still there but as
it's 18 years ago since I did them. maybe not.

You can just see one in the left of this photo:

http://tinyurl.com/gsaxn

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Default Re: Fibreglass panel repairer needed - 07-30-2006 , 06:08 AM



On 29 Jul 2006 22:44:29 GMT, Ian Johnston wrote:

Quote:
I'm pretty sure it will repair fine in expert hands - it's a
comparitively clean break across the whole width, with a damge band
hardly more than a couple of inches across. Having seen what can be
done by way of repairs to GRP gliders, it's not a bad candidate for
mending ... as long as someone good does it. Which might mean, I
suppose, taking it to a GRP glider menders, but yes, that would
probably cost a lot more than the 300 quid a new panel costs. On the
other hand, we then have to get a new panel to fit ...
My local vehicle repairer does composite planes as well as cars, he's also
worked on several specialist vehicles such as land speed record attempts
and I've seen a replica GT40 that he built that was as near to flawless as
you can get. He also charges reasonable prices. He's close to Lasham
gliding club in Hampshire, I don't know if that's too far away from your
friend or not.

I've also had excellent work done on my boat by a company in Portsmouth, so
far they haven't charged an extortionate price for any GRP layup work.


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Default Re: Fibreglass panel repairer needed - 07-30-2006 , 07:22 AM



We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk (SteveH)
saying something like:

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comparitively clean break across the whole width, with a damge band
hardly more than a couple of inches across.

Which is what's going to make it incredibly difficult to repair and get
a flat finish. There's a very good reason Lotus had a rubber joining
strip round some of their cars.
Because they were moulded in two halves and on a production line the
time required for a good finish wasn't justified.

Quote:
Having seen what can be
done by way of repairs to GRP gliders, it's not a bad candidate for
mending ... as long as someone good does it.

Only a glider wouldn't have to be repaired to the same standard of
finish as a cherished classic car.

Which might mean, I
suppose, taking it to a GRP glider menders, but yes, that would
probably cost a lot more than the 300 quid a new panel costs. On the
other hand, we then have to get a new panel to fit ...

It'll still be much easier and cheaper to do than repairing a broken
fibreglass panel. It was my dad's area of expertise (most bus bodies are
fibreglass) - they could never get a panel to look as good as new once
it had been split or punctured.
Same for buses as gliders, in that way. Close up inspection is not
really part of the customer experience and they want it back in service
asap. You certainly can get an excellent finish on a f/g repair - all it
takes is lots of time.

To say you can't is bollocks.
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Default Re: Fibreglass panel repairer needed - 07-30-2006 , 08:55 AM



On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:37:17 UTC, Conor <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

: In article <cCUlhtvFIYkV-pn2-
: mrCxrGydpdQm (AT) internal (DOT) RFC...lecomplete.net>, Ian Johnston says...
:
: > I'm pretty sure it will repair fine in expert hands - it's a
: > comparitively clean break across the whole width, with a damge band
: > hardly more than a couple of inches across.

: There'll be no questioning the strength of the repair but it's the
: finish. It'll be extremely time consuming to get a completely invisible
: repair on old fibreglass.

Absolutely. I think the we'd like to get a quote before deciding,
that's all. Apart from anything else, there's the sentimental desire
to keep as many original bits as possible.

Ian

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Default Re: Fibreglass panel repairer needed - 07-30-2006 , 09:10 AM



On 30 Jul 2006 13:55:43 GMT, Ian Johnston wrote:

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Absolutely. I think the we'd like to get a quote before deciding,
that's all. Apart from anything else, there's the sentimental desire
to keep as many original bits as possible.
The local boatyard did an invisible repair on old glassfibre for me and it
was a damned mess before they started. Some careless swine had removed the
rudder from my boat and left it at the bottom of the marina where it
remained for the best part of a week. It was splintered about halfway down.
The repair is genuinely invisible.


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