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Default Help identifying an antique car - 02-21-2007 , 09:44 PM






Hello,
As part of an art history research project I am trying to definitively
identify the make, model and year of a car that appeared in a 1952
collage by the artist Eduardo Paolozzi. The car, along with the
collage, is pictured here: http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/car

I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who can provide any
information at all regarding this.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ryan
johnston.rs (AT) gmail (DOT) com


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Default Re: Help identifying an antique car - 02-21-2007 , 10:18 PM






johnston.rs (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

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I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who can provide any
information at all regarding this.
That's a 1951 Kaiser.

George Patterson
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Default Re: Help identifying an antique car - 02-22-2007 , 04:45 PM



On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:47:24 +0100, Yippee
<yippee.108 (AT) intuh (DOT) net.invalid> wrote:

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George Patterson <grpphoto (AT) verizon (DOT) net> realised it was Thu, 22 Feb 2007
04:18:20 GMT and decided it was time to write:

johnston.rs (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who can provide any
information at all regarding this.

That's a 1951 Kaiser.

Yep, 1951 Kaiser Frazer Continental. Production figure was 8,888. Or
thereabouts.
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Ummm....been a long time since I owned a '51 Kaiser, and I didn't have
it long enough to become knowledgeable, but I'm pretty sure I
remember a couple of things about them.

The Frazer was the sister to the Kaiser, with different sheetmetal.
See http://forums.aaca.org/misc/443561-Frazer1951.JPG for a picture of
one.

So while there were several Kaiser model names, Frazer wasn't one of
them but rather a different car.

I don't think Continental was used as a Kaiser model name until
later...maybe '54 or '55. I could be wrong about that, though--as I
say, I wasn't an expert even when I had one. I do believe the
underpowered industrial 6-cylinder engine used in the Kaiser was a
Continental.

Joe
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Default Re: Help identifying an antique car - 02-22-2007 , 05:47 PM



On 21 Feb 2007 19:44:21 -0800, johnston.rs (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

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Hello,
As part of an art history research project I am trying to definitively
identify the make, model and year of a car that appeared in a 1952
collage by the artist Eduardo Paolozzi. The car, along with the
collage, is pictured here: http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/car

I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who can provide any
information at all regarding this.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ryan
johnston.rs (AT) gmail (DOT) com
http://www.kfnut.com/1951models/page4.html


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Default Re: Help identifying an antique car - 02-22-2007 , 10:26 PM



Yup that certainly is a Kaiser, There was also a Frazer around that year
too but it looked much different.
<johnston.rs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Hello,
As part of an art history research project I am trying to definitively
identify the make, model and year of a car that appeared in a 1952
collage by the artist Eduardo Paolozzi. The car, along with the
collage, is pictured here: http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/car

I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who can provide any
information at all regarding this.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ryan
johnston.rs (AT) gmail (DOT) com




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Default Re: Help identifying an antique car - 02-22-2007 , 10:54 PM



Thats great, thanks everyone for all of your help with this - its very
much appreciated.
Cheers,
Ryan

On Feb 23, 3:26 pm, "duke39" <duk... (AT) pacbell (DOT) net> wrote:
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Yup that certainly is a Kaiser, There was also a Frazer around that year
too but it looked much different.<johnston... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1172115861.200001.112370 (AT) m58g2000cwm (DOT) googlegroups.com...

Hello,
As part of an art history research project I am trying to definitively
identify the make, model and year of a car that appeared in a 1952
collage by the artist Eduardo Paolozzi. The car, along with the
collage, is pictured here:http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/car

I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who can provide any
information at all regarding this.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ryan
johnston... (AT) gmail (DOT) com



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Default Re: Help identifying an antique car - 02-24-2007 , 01:12 AM



On Feb 22, 8:54 pm, johnston... (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
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Thats great, thanks everyone for all of your help with this - its very
much appreciated.
Cheers,
Ryan

On Feb 23, 3:26 pm, "duke39" <duk... (AT) pacbell (DOT) net> wrote:



Yup that certainly is a Kaiser, There was also a Frazer around that year
too but it looked much different.<johnston... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message

news:1172115861.200001.112370 (AT) m58g2000cwm (DOT) googlegroups.com...

Hello,
As part of an art history research project I am trying to definitively
identify the make, model and year of a car that appeared in a 1952
collage by the artist Eduardo Paolozzi. The car, along with the
collage, is pictured here:http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/car

I would be very pleased to hear from anyone who can provide any
information at all regarding this.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Ryan
johnston... (AT) gmail (DOT) com- Hide quoted text -

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The '51 Frazer was built on the 1950 K/F body, with attractive
update / modifuication,making it the best looking of all Frazers.
By 1951 Joe F and Hank K hated each other. Edgard K was running the
company as best as he could despite the bad feelings.
(POI The first Frazers that rolled off the KF assembly link bore the
plate, "A product of Graham- Paige," a company which JF still owned.
HK put a stop to that.
Afet 1955, Kaiser moved to Argentina, building the '55 models for a
while. Kaiser moved the Willys production to Brazil at about the same
time. The Willys Jeep line had stayed in the US, under different
owners.

Studebaker had the motto: "Give more than you promise.". I guess I did
that with this answer.



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Default Re: Help identifying an antique car - 02-25-2007 , 09:35 AM




"duke39" <duke39 (AT) pacbell (DOT) net> wrote

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Yup that certainly is a Kaiser, There was also a Frazer around that year
too but it looked much different.
johnston.rs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1172115861.200001.112370 (AT) m58g2000cwm (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Hello,
As part of an art history research project I am trying to definitively
identify the make, model and year of a car that appeared in a 1952
collage by the artist Eduardo Paolozzi. The car, along with the
collage, is pictured here: http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/car

The giveaway is the windshield. You'll notice it dips down in the middle; it
was dubbed the "Sweetheart Dip". Kaiser had it, Frazer didn't.

Rabbit




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Default Re: Help identifying an antique car - 02-25-2007 , 09:41 AM



On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:35:58 -0500, "Rabbit"
<notachancespammers (AT) screwyou (DOT) com> wrote:

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"duke39" <duke39 (AT) pacbell (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Yup that certainly is a Kaiser, There was also a Frazer around that year
too but it looked much different.
johnston.rs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1172115861.200001.112370 (AT) m58g2000cwm (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Hello,
As part of an art history research project I am trying to definitively
identify the make, model and year of a car that appeared in a 1952
collage by the artist Eduardo Paolozzi. The car, along with the
collage, is pictured here: http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/car


The giveaway is the windshield. You'll notice it dips down in the middle; it
was dubbed the "Sweetheart Dip". Kaiser had it, Frazer didn't.
Also, 1951 is a split windshield/screen. For 1952 and on Frazers, it
was one piece.


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Default Re: Help identifying an antique car - 02-25-2007 , 09:43 AM



On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:41:27 -0500, Dean Dark
<ddrake (AT) comcast (DOT) notthis.net> wrote:

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:35:58 -0500, "Rabbit"
notachancespammers (AT) screwyou (DOT) com> wrote:


"duke39" <duke39 (AT) pacbell (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:s1uDh.393$jx3.304 (AT) newssvr25 (DOT) news.prodigy.net...
Yup that certainly is a Kaiser, There was also a Frazer around that year
too but it looked much different.
johnston.rs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1172115861.200001.112370 (AT) m58g2000cwm (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Hello,
As part of an art history research project I am trying to definitively
identify the make, model and year of a car that appeared in a 1952
collage by the artist Eduardo Paolozzi. The car, along with the
collage, is pictured here: http://johnston.rs.googlepages.com/car


The giveaway is the windshield. You'll notice it dips down in the middle; it
was dubbed the "Sweetheart Dip". Kaiser had it, Frazer didn't.

Also, 1951 is a split windshield/screen. For 1952 and on Frazers, it
was one piece.
Grrrr. I meant Kaiser, not Frazer.


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