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Default Keeping warm in an open car with no heater? - 10-11-2006 , 12:47 PM






Hello All,

Thought I'd ask this question as some classic owners might have a good
answer :-)

I'm driving a DRK Trojan 3 wheeler Morgan rep out to Athens next week. It
has no heater. It has a roof, but it's a soft one with plastic side windows
so you can't really see much when it's up, and nothing if it rains as it has
no wipers either .

What's the best thing to wear to keep warm? Will thermals, jumper, coat and
good hat be good enough, with a waterproof oversuit if it rains? We'll be
doing some night driving too. Or should I take the full face motorbike
helmet as a poster in another group suggested?

Thanks for any help

Mike p



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Default Re: Keeping warm in an open car with no heater? - 10-11-2006 , 01:39 PM






On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:47:59 +0100, Mike P <privacy (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote:
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Hello All,

Thought I'd ask this question as some classic owners might have a good
answer :-)

I'm driving a DRK Trojan 3 wheeler Morgan rep out to Athens next week. It
has no heater. It has a roof, but it's a soft one with plastic side windows
so you can't really see much when it's up, and nothing if it rains as it has
no wipers either .

What's the best thing to wear to keep warm? Will thermals, jumper, coat and
good hat be good enough, with a waterproof oversuit if it rains? We'll be
doing some night driving too. Or should I take the full face motorbike
helmet as a poster in another group suggested?

Thanks for any help
You can't beat a fleece-lined flying jacket, and scarf to cover the mouth.
Add a woolly hat and some gloves (it's amazing how quickly the hands get
cold!) and you'll be ok, but you'll look like a survivor from the 1950s :-)
As for rain, just keep moving...

(My friend had a Morgan 3-wheeler which didn't run to a top, we went every-
where in it, summer and winter.)

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Default Re: Keeping warm in an open car with no heater? - 10-11-2006 , 03:33 PM



On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:47:59 +0100, Mike P wrote:

Quote:
What's the best thing to wear to keep warm? Will thermals, jumper, coat and
good hat be good enough, with a waterproof oversuit if it rains? We'll be
doing some night driving too. Or should I take the full face motorbike
helmet as a poster in another group suggested?
Flying jacket, balaclava, thermals. Take particular care of you feet. I
wouldn't wear a full face helmet it cuts off too much vision and means you
can't hear a damn thing.

No gentleman ever has the hood up on a Morgan BTW.

Which route are you using BTW? I would tend to go from the Channel port to
Basel through Switzerland to Como and then around Milan to Bologna then
down the coast to Ancona and get the ferry from there. Might also consider
going on to Bari and taking the ferry there but I don't like the local
version of the Mafia in Bari, dangerous fuckers.


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Default Re: Keeping warm in an open car with no heater? - 10-11-2006 , 04:00 PM



Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:

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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:47:59 +0100, Mike P wrote:

What's the best thing to wear to keep warm? Will thermals, jumper, coat and
good hat be good enough, with a waterproof oversuit if it rains? We'll be
doing some night driving too. Or should I take the full face motorbike
helmet as a poster in another group suggested?

Flying jacket, balaclava, thermals. Take particular care of you feet. I
wouldn't wear a full face helmet it cuts off too much vision and means you
can't hear a damn thing.
I can't see a problem with a full-face lid myself. They're fine on the
bike, so should be fine in an open car.
--
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www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
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Default Re: Keeping warm in an open car with no heater? - 10-11-2006 , 04:02 PM




"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote

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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:47:59 +0100, Mike P wrote:

What's the best thing to wear to keep warm? Will thermals, jumper, coat
and
good hat be good enough, with a waterproof oversuit if it rains? We'll be
doing some night driving too. Or should I take the full face motorbike
helmet as a poster in another group suggested?

Flying jacket, balaclava, thermals. Take particular care of you feet. I
wouldn't wear a full face helmet it cuts off too much vision and means you
can't hear a damn thing.

No gentleman ever has the hood up on a Morgan BTW.

Which route are you using BTW? I would tend to go from the Channel port to
Basel through Switzerland to Como and then around Milan to Bologna then
down the coast to Ancona and get the ferry from there. Might also consider
going on to Bari and taking the ferry there but I don't like the local
version of the Mafia in Bari, dangerous fuckers.
Thanks for the tips all, I'll invest in a couple of flying jackets, I have
the rest.

Not sure as to the exact route we are taking. It's on an email at work .
Calais, Rheims, Montblanc Tunnel, Ancona is it in a nutshell though. My dad
lives out in Athens, and it's the route we've been recommended by the Brits
who drive back and forth a lot. I've convinced myself it will be a laugh. We
catch the 4am ferry from Dover on Thursday am, 13:30 ferry from Ancona on
Friday.

Mike P




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Default Re: Keeping warm in an open car with no heater? - 10-11-2006 , 04:24 PM



Yippee <yippee.108 (AT) intuh (DOT) net.invalid> wrote:

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steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk (SteveH) realised it was Wed, 11 Oct 2006
22:00:34 +0100 and decided it was time to write:

Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:47:59 +0100, Mike P wrote:

What's the best thing to wear to keep warm? Will thermals, jumper,
coat and good hat be good enough, with a waterproof oversuit if it
rains? We'll be doing some night driving too. Or should I take the
full face motorbike helmet as a poster in another group suggested?

Flying jacket, balaclava, thermals. Take particular care of you feet. I
wouldn't wear a full face helmet it cuts off too much vision and means
you can't hear a damn thing.

I can't see a problem with a full-face lid myself. They're fine on the
bike, so should be fine in an open car.

Come on, it would look ridiculously whimpish in an open car, unless it
has no windscreen.
From the OP, it would appear that said car only has a deflector /
flyscreen arrangement.

I'd go with the full-face and a snood underneath it.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
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Default Re: Keeping warm in an open car with no heater? - 10-11-2006 , 04:32 PM




"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote

Quote:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:47:59 +0100, Mike P wrote:

What's the best thing to wear to keep warm? Will thermals, jumper, coat
and
good hat be good enough, with a waterproof oversuit if it rains? We'll be
doing some night driving too. Or should I take the full face motorbike
helmet as a poster in another group suggested?

Flying jacket, balaclava, thermals. Take particular care of you feet. I
wouldn't wear a full face helmet it cuts off too much vision and means you
can't hear a damn thing.

No gentleman ever has the hood up on a Morgan BTW.
Real old cars usually produced enough heat from the engine compartment to
keep your lower half warm, but whether this goes for replicas in general and
this one in particular I wouldn't know.

Gentleman or not, don't bother with the hood, wear a warm waterproof jacket
and also waterproof trousers - bucket seats are called that for a reason.
Some swear by a towel around the neck to stop water ingress. Gloves of
course - it helps if they are made of something suitable for wiping the back
of the windscreen, it saves driving with a chammy leather clutched in the
jaws. Something to keep the ears warm is a good idea, but a full face
helmet is tending towards overkill, apart from being a darned nuisance when
you are not actually using it. A lot depends on the windscreen though, it's
really a matter of suck it and see.

Should be fun though.

Ron Robinson




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Default Re: Keeping warm in an open car with no heater? - 10-11-2006 , 04:39 PM



SteveH (steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Quote:
I can't see a problem with a full-face lid myself. They're fine on
the bike, so should be fine in an open car.

Come on, it would look ridiculously whimpish in an open car, unless
it has no windscreen.

From the OP, it would appear that said car only has a deflector /
flyscreen arrangement.

I'd go with the full-face and a snood underneath it.
You're a big girl's blouse.

If I can drive a Lohr or a Mehari (screen-folded) with goggles (at best),
the OP can drive a Morgan rep without a full-face helmet.


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Default Re: Keeping warm in an open car with no heater? - 10-11-2006 , 04:42 PM



Adrian <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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SteveH (steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

I can't see a problem with a full-face lid myself. They're fine on
the bike, so should be fine in an open car.

Come on, it would look ridiculously whimpish in an open car, unless
it has no windscreen.

From the OP, it would appear that said car only has a deflector /
flyscreen arrangement.

I'd go with the full-face and a snood underneath it.

You're a big girl's blouse.

If I can drive a Lohr or a Mehari (screen-folded) with goggles (at best),
the OP can drive a Morgan rep without a full-face helmet.
In the weather we've been having recently, I'd go with the lid until I
was in warmer / less wet parts of Europe.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
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Default Re: Keeping warm in an open car with no heater? - 10-11-2006 , 04:43 PM



Mike P (privacy (AT) privacy (DOT) net) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Quote:
Thought I'd ask this question as some classic owners might have a good
answer :-)

I'm driving a DRK Trojan 3 wheeler Morgan rep out to Athens next week.
It has no heater. It has a roof, but it's a soft one with plastic side
windows so you can't really see much when it's up, and nothing if it
rains as it has no wipers either .
Throw the roof as far as you can. Use the storage space for clean
underwear.

Quote:
What's the best thing to wear to keep warm? Will thermals, jumper,
coat and good hat be good enough, with a waterproof oversuit if it
rains?
I've got (somewhere) a two-layer East German army tank suit. It's
*WONDERFUL*. One layer alone is plenty warm enough in a North Yorkshire
forest in October.

Quote:
We'll be doing some night driving too. Or should I take the full face
motorbike helmet as a poster in another group suggested?
The helmet option will just make people point and laugh, and won't actually
do much to keep you properly warm that a proper hat with earflaps won't. It
will also cut down your peripheral vision and situational awareness
massively.

My best tip?
Wait until summer...


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