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Re: Adpating self-levelling Nivomats for the SD1 Vitesse?
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Re: Adpating self-levelling Nivomats for the SD1 Vitesse? -
09-11-2009
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In article <7gtij7F2piumaU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, Miike G <postmaster (AT) miktoolman (DOT) plus.net> wrote: On top of that it rolled more than it did even before when it had a knackered Nivomat. Leading me to believe the springs were simply not hard enough. IIRC, the principle of the Nivomat makes it an anti-roll device to some extent, given it attempts to keep a constant ride height. It's a relatively easy matter to make a car 'handle' well by stiffer springs etc. Getting a decent ride/handling compromise is the difficult bit. Which many modern makers with far more sophisticated rear suspension systems still don't manage. I'm utterly amazed just how hard the ride is on many modern cars. I have a neighbour with a new BMW 535d - and that is simply awful over roads I know well. |
that is softer.
One can't argue that one choice is better than the other In the end it comes
down to personal preference.
My son had an Octavia VRS TDI last year as a company car. Maybe a little
rough around the edges, but it went like stink with a firm ride. The sort of
ride I like, but I can quite see that the ride quality could be a criticism
levelled at it by someone who prefered a softer more compliant ride.
Someone like yourself for instance. :-)
Mike.
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:50990f2bfcdave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk... In article <7gtjetF2pt18qU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, Miike G postmaster (AT) miktoolman (DOT) plus.net> wrote: My E39 also has std suspension, but with 17" wheels, which I believe, at least from the handbook, was a listed option. It is, and spoils the ride. Like most ultra low profile tyres. Not by any significant amount on normal roads. Only on rough roads is the difference noticeable . |
most are appalling. Especially London ones.
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Remember, I had a '98 528i as well, before I sold it and kept the one I have now. |
wheels. The 16" made less difference. Not that I'm holding up the E39 as a
paragon of good ride. It's merely adequate.
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That had std wheels and there was hardly any difference in ride between thr two. Of course that could have been down to the tyres it had, which were not particularly good quality, but I don't think that better tyres would have made a noticeable difference. Mike. |
from the previous Avons was considerable. Better in every way. Apart from
wear which is too early to tell.
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We all have our likes and dislikes. I prefer a harder ride. You prefer one that is softer. One can't argue that one choice is better than the other In the end it comes down to personal preference. My son had an Octavia VRS TDI last year as a company car. Maybe a little rough around the edges, but it went like stink with a firm ride. The sort of ride I like, but I can quite see that the ride quality could be a criticism levelled at it by someone who prefered a softer more compliant ride. Someone like yourself for instance. :-) |
much of a blind follower of fashion.
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In article <7guuh8F2qvrhoU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, Miike G postmaster (AT) miktoolman (DOT) plus.net> wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:50990f2bfcdave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk... In article <7gtjetF2pt18qU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, Miike G postmaster (AT) miktoolman (DOT) plus.net> wrote: My E39 also has std suspension, but with 17" wheels, which I believe, at least from the handbook, was a listed option. It is, and spoils the ride. Like most ultra low profile tyres. Not by any significant amount on normal roads. Only on rough roads is the difference noticeable . Where do you find 'normal' roads in the UK? ;-) |
Around Horsham where I live, the majority of deristricted roads are fairly
smooth and free of surface irregularities. It's on the minor and side roads
in villages etc where the lack of maintenance is most obvious.
In my own village for several weeks there were some quite deep potholes in
the access road to the library car park. Other local roads also have
problems with minor potholes, and bumpy repairs.
They do jar my car if I hit them, but as I know where most of them are, most
times I can avoid them.
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Apart from some motorways most are appalling. Especially London ones. |
suspensions and ride comfort.:-)
Mike..
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In article <7guuvtF2r589rU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, Miike G <postmaster (AT) miktoolman (DOT) plus.net> wrote: We all have our likes and dislikes. I prefer a harder ride. You prefer one that is softer. One can't argue that one choice is better than the other In the end it comes down to personal preference. My son had an Octavia VRS TDI last year as a company car. Maybe a little rough around the edges, but it went like stink with a firm ride. The sort of ride I like, but I can quite see that the ride quality could be a criticism levelled at it by someone who prefered a softer more compliant ride. Someone like yourself for instance. :-) Yup. It's certainly the fashion to have poor riding cars. Luckily I'm not much of a blind follower of fashion. |
I doubt modern cars would be made with 'poor' rides if such cars reduced a
manufacturers overall sales.
Mike..
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Yup. It's certainly the fashion to have poor riding cars. Luckily I'm not much of a blind follower of fashion. 'Poor' is a subjective opinion. I doubt modern cars would be made with 'poor' rides if such cars reduced a manufacturers overall sales. |
20" wheels on a car which never leaves town. ;-)
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