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Re: Identify this car badge - lion/dragon surrounded by 3 knives/swords. -
05-04-2007
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| Jon wrote: spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk declared for all the world to hear... Jon wrote: spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk declared for all the world to hear... Adrian wrote: Dafydd (spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : C'mon guys, This IS a Ford badge, if on a UK car its pre-script Ford chrome badge and the blue oval. ISTR on 50s/60s cars (Consul, Zodiac etc) looks at link in other post I think we have a winner. Dunno about "pre-script/oval", though - since Model Ts used the script-in- oval... Too quick for my own good. I meant script for Cortina, Escort etc rather than script in oval and the separate F-O-R-D letters, but of course they used script for the model even in the 50s & 60s but a different style. I'm looking for specific models where this badge was used but so far can only find 100E key fobs where the design is used but the shield, as in this pic. is not. On these 'early' models ISTR the 'ford' was in a 'V' type badge at the back edge of the front wing and only the model type shown at front & rear of car. Nice one Dave. I knew someone would know! So what exactly do I have here? Is it a grille badge? Is it valuable to anyone? It would help to know the physical size and fitting. Can you put a photo of the underside, next to a ruler or a 50p or something, on your website? http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1197.JPG http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1198.JPG http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1199.JPG Cheers Erm......don't you mean /100_1195,1196 & 1197.jpg?? 8^] |
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spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk declared for all the world to hear... Jon wrote: spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk declared for all the world to hear... Jon wrote: spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk declared for all the world to hear... Adrian wrote: Dafydd (spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : C'mon guys, This IS a Ford badge, if on a UK car its pre-script Ford chrome badge and the blue oval. ISTR on 50s/60s cars (Consul, Zodiac etc) looks at link in other post I think we have a winner. Dunno about "pre-script/oval", though - since Model Ts used the script-in- oval... Too quick for my own good. I meant script for Cortina, Escort etc rather than script in oval and the separate F-O-R-D letters, but of course they used script for the model even in the 50s & 60s but a different style. I'm looking for specific models where this badge was used but so far can only find 100E key fobs where the design is used but the shield, as in this pic. is not. On these 'early' models ISTR the 'ford' was in a 'V' type badge at the back edge of the front wing and only the model type shown at front & rear of car. Nice one Dave. I knew someone would know! So what exactly do I have here? Is it a grille badge? Is it valuable to anyone? It would help to know the physical size and fitting. Can you put a photo of the underside, next to a ruler or a 50p or something, on your website? http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1197.JPG http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1198.JPG http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1199.JPG Cheers Erm......don't you mean /100_1195,1196 & 1197.jpg?? 8^] Could be, 'twas early in the morning! |
to admit it's finally beaten me! If SWMBO knew the time I'd spent on
this, I'd be out on me ear. I've looked at the grille and boot badges of
the Mk1 Zephyr at:-
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/50_fordzephyr6estate.htm
http://www.thanetonline.com/ramsgate...ephyr_1954.htm
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/new/17794.jpg
but they are bigger than your badge and have (I think) 'Ford Product' in
a black area at the bottom of the badge. So, I think your badge is Ford,
50s, but used on what, I can't say. Rare? probably. Valuable? possibly.
I'll see if one of my lads can put these piccys on the counter at the
motor spares place where he works to see if anyone else can come up with
the answer. A copy will also circulate in a Jag plant.
Sorry,
Dave
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| Jon wrote: spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk declared for all the world to hear... Jon wrote: spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk declared for all the world to hear... Jon wrote: spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk declared for all the world to hear... Adrian wrote: Dafydd (spoof (AT) spoof (DOT) org.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : C'mon guys, This IS a Ford badge, if on a UK car its pre-script Ford chrome badge and the blue oval. ISTR on 50s/60s cars (Consul, Zodiac etc) looks at link in other post I think we have a winner. Dunno about "pre-script/oval", though - since Model Ts used the script-in- oval... Too quick for my own good. I meant script for Cortina, Escort etc rather than script in oval and the separate F-O-R-D letters, but of course they used script for the model even in the 50s & 60s but a different style. I'm looking for specific models where this badge was used but so far can only find 100E key fobs where the design is used but the shield, as in this pic. is not. On these 'early' models ISTR the 'ford' was in a 'V' type badge at the back edge of the front wing and only the model type shown at front & rear of car. Nice one Dave. I knew someone would know! So what exactly do I have here? Is it a grille badge? Is it valuable to anyone? It would help to know the physical size and fitting. Can you put a photo of the underside, next to a ruler or a 50p or something, on your website? http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1197.JPG http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1198.JPG http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1199.JPG Cheers Erm......don't you mean /100_1195,1196 & 1197.jpg?? 8^] Could be, 'twas early in the morning! Well, I'm normally like a dog with a bone - I won't give up, but I have to admit it's finally beaten me! If SWMBO knew the time I'd spent on this, I'd be out on me ear. I've looked at the grille and boot badges of the Mk1 Zephyr at:- http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/50_fordzephyr6estate.htm http://www.thanetonline.com/ramsgate...ephyr_1954.htm http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/new/17794.jpg but they are bigger than your badge and have (I think) 'Ford Product' in a black area at the bottom of the badge. So, I think your badge is Ford, 50s, but used on what, I can't say. Rare? probably. Valuable? possibly. I'll see if one of my lads can put these piccys on the counter at the motor spares place where he works to see if anyone else can come up with the answer. A copy will also circulate in a Jag plant. Sorry, Dave |
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As a postscript to this interesting string, wasn't the creature called a "wyvern" in heraldic terms? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern
Wyverns can symbolise envy, war, pestilence, and viciousness
Yup, definitely a Vauxhall...
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As a postscript to this interesting string, wasn't the creature called a "wyvern" in heraldic terms? You're thinking Vauxhall... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern Wyverns can symbolise envy, war, pestilence, and viciousness Yup, definitely a Vauxhall... |
wyverns at great length for their well-known ability to oxidise
metallic elements, particularly alloys of iron. It is believed that
the alchemists saw great promise in the wyvern in respect of the
plumbic to auric transmutation method that they also sought.
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| http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1197.JPG http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1198.JPG http://www.jonparker.plus.com/100_1199.JPG Erm......don't you mean /100_1195,1196 & 1197.jpg?? 8^] Could be, 'twas early in the morning! Well, I'm normally like a dog with a bone - I won't give up, but I have to admit it's finally beaten me! If SWMBO knew the time I'd spent on this, I'd be out on me ear. I've looked at the grille and boot badges of the Mk1 Zephyr at:- http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/50_fordzephyr6estate.htm http://www.thanetonline.com/ramsgate...ephyr_1954.htm http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/uploads/new/17794.jpg but they are bigger than your badge and have (I think) 'Ford Product' in a black area at the bottom of the badge. So, I think your badge is Ford, 50s, but used on what, I can't say. Rare? probably. Valuable? possibly. I'll see if one of my lads can put these piccys on the counter at the motor spares place where he works to see if anyone else can come up with the answer. A copy will also circulate in a Jag plant. Sorry, Dave |
keep trying this end also. Your assistance is appreciated!
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Jon
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On 04 May 2007 20:43:38 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: As a postscript to this interesting string, wasn't the creature called a "wyvern" in heraldic terms? You're thinking Vauxhall... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyvern Wyverns can symbolise envy, war, pestilence, and viciousness Yup, definitely a Vauxhall... Absolutely. In the 11th and 12th centuries, alchemists studied wyverns at great length for their well-known ability to oxidise metallic elements, particularly alloys of iron. It is believed that the alchemists saw great promise in the wyvern in respect of the plumbic to auric transmutation method that they also sought. |
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Erm... Where did they catch the wyverns, then? |
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Erm... Where did they catch the wyverns, then? |
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Ian Dalziel (iandalziel (AT) lineone (DOT) net) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : Erm... Where did they catch the wyverns, then? Luton Airport, innit? Well, one of them used to run a pub at the bottom of Eaton Green Road. |
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