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Default Removing rear-end bearing cap on a Spitfire engine? - 12-23-2005 , 03:07 PM






I've got the oil pan off(remind myself to turn the crankshaft next time, jeesh).
Got the 2 main bolts of it off, but it will not come out.
I can wiggle it forwards and backwards a bit, but any other way and it's on there
solid. Any tips on how to get it out?

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Default Re: Removing rear-end bearing cap on a Spitfire engine? - 12-23-2005 , 04:05 PM







"S1500" <s1500 (AT) nospam (DOT) comcast.net> wrote

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I've got the oil pan off(remind myself to turn the crankshaft next time,
jeesh).
Got the 2 main bolts of it off, but it will not come out.
I can wiggle it forwards and backwards a bit, but any other way and it's
on there
solid. Any tips on how to get it out?
if it has one: is the oil seal stuck in the cap, so it just needs a good
pull to release it?

mrcheerful




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Default Re: Removing rear-end bearing cap on a Spitfire engine? - 12-23-2005 , 06:33 PM



To my knowledge, the oil seal wasn't stuck in the cap. I tried to wedge a screwdriver between cap & thrust washer,
but didn't want to score things. I'll give it another whirl tomorrow. Today totally entailed getting my MINI towed out since the electrics
conked out on it.

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I've got the oil pan off(remind myself to turn the crankshaft next time,
jeesh).
Got the 2 main bolts of it off, but it will not come out.
I can wiggle it forwards and backwards a bit, but any other way and it's
on there
solid. Any tips on how to get it out?


if it has one: is the oil seal stuck in the cap, so it just needs a good
pull to release it?

mrcheerful



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Default Re: Removing rear-end bearing cap on a Spitfire engine? - 12-23-2005 , 07:58 PM




"S1500" <s1500 (AT) nospam (DOT) comcast.net> wrote

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To my knowledge, the oil seal wasn't stuck in the cap. I tried to wedge a
screwdriver between cap & thrust washer,
but didn't want to score things. I'll give it another whirl tomorrow.
Today totally entailed getting my MINI towed out since the electrics
conked out on it.

the thrust washer may be integral to the main bearing itself




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Default Re: Removing rear-end bearing cap on a Spitfire engine? - 12-23-2005 , 09:31 PM



On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:33:59 -0600, S1500 <s1500 (AT) nospam (DOT) comcast.net>
wrote:

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To my knowledge, the oil seal wasn't stuck in the cap. I tried to wedge a screwdriver between cap & thrust washer,
but didn't want to score things. I'll give it another whirl tomorrow. Today totally entailed getting my MINI towed out since the electrics
conked out on it.

Is that MINI as opposed to Mini? Here's what the Notts About Minis club
think: http://www.nottsaboutminis.co.uk/JoinUspage.html (think that's
the right URL as the server's down as I type)

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Default Re: Removing rear-end bearing cap on a Spitfire engine? - 12-23-2005 , 11:48 PM



The car in question is an '03 MINI. The battery, indicating it is charged(on the charger), but couldn't start if its life depended on it.


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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:33:59 -0600, S1500 <s1500 (AT) nospam (DOT) comcast.net
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To my knowledge, the oil seal wasn't stuck in the cap. I tried to wedge a screwdriver between cap & thrust washer,
but didn't want to score things. I'll give it another whirl tomorrow. Today totally entailed getting my MINI towed out since the electrics
conked out on it.


Is that MINI as opposed to Mini? Here's what the Notts About Minis club
think: http://www.nottsaboutminis.co.uk/JoinUspage.html (think that's
the right URL as the server's down as I type)


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Default Re: Removing rear-end bearing cap on a Spitfire engine? - 12-24-2005 , 01:20 AM




"mrcheerful ." <nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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To my knowledge, the oil seal wasn't stuck in the cap. I tried to wedge
a
screwdriver between cap & thrust washer,
but didn't want to score things. I'll give it another whirl tomorrow.
Today totally entailed getting my MINI towed out since the electrics
conked out on it.


the thrust washer may be integral to the main bearing itself
Nope - In fact, if only it were! The thrusts are two half washers, one
either side of the bearing , and held in place by the lower bearing cap
only. Dreadful design, and these engines are known to drop them quite
easily.

Chances are if the OP is trying to remove the rear cap with the engine in
situ it'll be a bit of a pain to get a good grip on. I've found sticking a
screwdriver in the bolt holes and wiggling lots while pulling down (press
against the screwdriver to "lock it" in the hole) eventually breaks the
seal - Most likely all that's holding it is the oil film round the crank.

Though why I'm even thinking of posting anything of use to someone with both
an underpowered haidresser car *and* a travesty BMW compact is beyond me...




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Default Re: Removing rear-end bearing cap on a Spitfire engine? - 12-29-2005 , 04:22 PM



On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 06:20:29 UTC, "Stuffed" <talking (AT) rse (DOT) non> wrote:

: Most likely all that's holding it is the oil film round the crank.

If I recall correctly, from the Herald engine, there are two hollow
pins protruding from the cap into matching holes in the block, and the
bolts go through these pins. It's logical really - means the cap is
located more accurately than a bolt would do it. These pinds will
probably be jamming. I put a long bolt of the same diameter as the
caps one into the hole in the cap and knock that backwards and
forwards with a hide faced mallet - the cap should soon wiggle down
and off.

Ian


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Default Re: Removing rear-end bearing cap on a Spitfire engine? - 01-16-2006 , 03:17 PM



On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:47:29 GMT, Chris Bolus <chris (AT) FARINAb0lus (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 17:33:59 -0600, S1500 <s1500 (AT) nospam (DOT) comcast.net
wrote:

To my knowledge, the oil seal wasn't stuck in the cap. I tried to wedge a screwdriver between cap & thrust washer,
but didn't want to score things. I'll give it another whirl tomorrow. Today totally entailed getting my MINI towed out since the electrics
conked out on it.

Is that MINI as opposed to Mini? Here's what the Notts About Minis club
think: http://www.nottsaboutminis.co.uk/JoinUspage.html (think that's
the right URL as the server's down as I type)
How the hell did that get re-posted? Something funny happening to my
PC...
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